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Old 03-20-2019, 02:54 PM
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First: I really like the car overall. It's a phenomenal car to drive. I smile every time I am behind the wheel. Mine is a 100% base model with PDK as its only option.

I'm a "steering guy" (if that is a "thing"). I love cars with nice steering and I have driven plenty of otherwise decent cars that are ruined by bad steering (my old racing Datsun 510 comes to mind).
The steering in my Cayman (which I have read complaints about) seems just about perfect to me.

Due to the weight, the car is not quite as toss-able as my old M2 Miata, but low speed maneuvering is decent and overall high speed handling is excellent.

Brakes seem excellent for street use.

The engine sounds cool to me. Not like my old 356 or the Formula Vee I owned. Or even a 914. Very powerful-sounding with a deep "basso profundo" . By comparison the six cylinder Porsches sound whiney to me.

Appearance is outstanding. I'm a big fan of the TVR Griffith 400 from the '60s. Even thought it's a very different car, this Cayman has some of that same, muscular-looking appeal to me.

Getting in isn't too awful for a person of my age and size (I'm approaching 70, 6' tall and about 215#)

I'm getting to really like the PDK. Wasn't too sure about it at first. I currently own 6 other manual-trans cars and I am sort of a heal & toe purist, so paddle shifting didn't attract me initially. The fact that my wife can easily drive the PDK was a real plus in buying this car.

The juddering caused by the reverse toe-out on turns when backing up is annoying but I understand the reason so I can forgive it. All cars do it to some degree but this is the worst I've ever seen.

Tire noise is loud except on real smooth roads. Hoping a tire brand change will help but I'm not confident.

I dislike the heater/fan toggles. A poor execution.

The left side speedometer is silly. Graduations are too coarse. Luckily the tach gives a digital velocity reading so I can ignore the speedometer.

I love the tach position. Perfect.

I'm not a fan of the oil temp / oil press / fuel level and water temp gauges. The little bars are not an nice as a sweeping needle.

The cup holder is a joke.

Four stalks around the steering wheel seemed excessive but I'm getting the hang of it after 14 months and 7700 miles.

It's hard to imagine they never considered a better arrangement for the front license plate.

Storage areas in the car are nice and useful.

Not a fan of the shiny, chrome-like horn ring and other trim areas on the dash. Can catch sun glare. It's a pity because while static, I like the way it looks. I may eventually cover some of these areas to reduce glare.

I love the fancy script on the back of the car that says "718 Cayman" . It's hard for me to believe that people elect to delete that but to each, his own.

I hate the lack of a spare tire. I guess I could say that for all new cars. But my uber-non-fancy, base model 2018 GMC cargo van came with a spare.

Despite some of the minor niggles above, I think this car is the bee's knees. I am always looking forward to the next drive in it.
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:34 PM
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... I love cars with nice steering and I have driven plenty of otherwise decent cars that are ruined by bad steering (my old racing Datsun 510 comes to mind).
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The engine sounds cool to me. Not like my old 356 or the Formula Vee I owned. Or even a 914. Very powerful-sounding with a deep "basso profundo" . By comparison the six cylinder Porsches sound whiney to me.
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Getting in isn't too awful for a person of my age and size (I'm approaching 70, 6' tall and about 215#)
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I'm getting to really like the PDK. Wasn't too sure about it at first. I currently own 6 other manual-trans cars and I am sort of a heal & toe purist, so paddle shifting didn't attract me initially.
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The left side speedometer is silly. Graduations are too coarse.
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The cup holder is a joke.
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Four stalks around the steering wheel seemed excessive but I'm getting the hang of it after 14 months and 7700 miles.
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An old 510 fan! Great little car with the Mulholland suspension but prone to rear-wheel steering.

Agreed about the sound. Love the "basso" which I woujd call baritone voice. Dislike the screamin'-banshee 6.

I've already hit 70 but I'm a bit smaller than you. Actually more than a bit. Most recent small cars were Triumph Spitfire and GT6, tiny but lightweight.

I used to heel-toe the Triumphs and the 510 and the other small cars I've owned. My only complaint with the PDK is when I put it in manual mode I forget I have to shift!

That small speedometer is one of the great silly features. 175 degrees to cover 0-175mph! Completely useless and I love it for that reason. If I raced or drove in the upper half of its range then I might appreciate its functionality.

Ah, the cupholders! Awesome little devices right up there with the speedometer for coolness. Actually they are quite functional for eating a picnic lunch with your sweetie while parked.

The PDK is awesome, but it has 6 stalks, not 4, if you count the paddles Took me a while to make them instinctive. They still aren't.

It's a great car to drive, isn't it?
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:07 PM
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The juddering caused by the reverse toe-out on turns when backing up is annoying but I understand the reason so I can forgive it. All cars do it to some degree but this is the worst I've ever seen.
I really notice this too! Thanks for the explanation as to why this happens.

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Not a fan of the shiny, chrome-like horn ring and other trim areas on the dash. Can catch sun glare. It's a pity because while static, I like the way it looks. I may eventually cover some of these areas to reduce glare.
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I love the fancy script on the back of the car that says "718 Cayman" . It's hard for me to believe that people elect to delete that but to each, his own.
I chose just plain "718". Looks nice and clean to me. The car is obviously a Cayman so no need to say it. I do notice some people look at the back of the car in curiosity (I guess they've never heard of a Porsche 718)
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:22 PM
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First: I really like the car overall. It's a phenomenal car to drive. I smile every time I am behind the wheel.
I agree with this 100%! Everytime I look, enter and drive my Cayman, I get excited and giddy. I feel very fortunate.
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So I will throw in my 2 cents on my 718C after 16 months and 13k miles.

I love the handling and that the base suspension, on the 18 inch wheels, has enough "band width" to be perfectly comfortable for my daily commute (mix of streets and freeways) and become amazingly planted when I am playing in the local canyons. The weight of the clutch is about perfect, and the take-up is silky smooth. The ergonomics of the gear shift is also about perfect. Oh, and I love the 14-way power seats and the seat ventilation.

I also love that I didn't get navigation on mine. I did get the Bose upgrade and the stereo is nice but the user interface is a bit buggy. I could only imagine what it would be like if the system was bogged down by the navigation module.

I only have two niggles. The first is the buggy user interface on the center console screen (and who decided that the last 5 radio presets can't be user configurable? Does anybody choose to listen to a radio station simply because it is the strongest signal?). The other is that the interior aluminum can reflect sunlight into my eyes while driving. I like how the aluminum brightens the interior (I went with the gray interior to keep it from being too dark inside), but it makes me think that on my next 718 I will get the brushed aluminum.

Then I drove a 982 6MT. Clouds parted.
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Old 04-14-2019, 02:29 AM
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I had white SC on my old CS and the reflection could sometimes be distracting.
Post 13 in this thread and you will have a pic on white with the lowest lumanation setting
https://www.718forum.com/forum/inter...o-clock-2.html
I've now realised why with some people the SC reflection is a problem & yet not for others. Because of my physical size the reflection is largely obscured by the mirror. It's definitely there & I can just about see the edge, but I need to either duck or lean over & look towards the centre at an angle to see it properly. Basically the reflection is only usually observed by dwarves & pygmies.

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Old 04-14-2019, 08:11 AM
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So I will throw in my 2 cents on my 718C after 16 months and 13k miles.
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I only have two niggles. The first is the buggy user interface on the center console screen (and who decided that the last 5 radio presets can't be user configurable? Does anybody choose to listen to a radio station simply because it is the strongest signal?).
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The other is that the interior aluminum can reflect sunlight into my eyes while driving.

I've had my base Cayman w/20" wheels for 9 months. I love it, have little or nothing to complain about.


I can't say I've run into any PCM bugs. The Bose audio system is fine. About those strongest-signal presets, think of them like this. Instead of 20 presets you have only 15 plus automatic detection of the 5 strongest stations. When you are driving long distance through areas you don't go through very often your "preset" presets are worthless. Having ready access to the strongest local stations is a form of Search except that in urban areas you may have to hit your Search button dozens of times as it settles on each and every scrap of signal. The strongest stations may not be your cup of tea but if you are desperate for radio they might do.


As for interior reflections, ah, the downsides to dropping the canopy on a 'vertible include much more sunlight and mussed up hair.
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:23 PM
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ah, the downsides to dropping the canopy on a 'vertible include much more sunlight and mussed up hair.

Eh? There are no downsides :- A) We aren't all vampires, many of us kinda like daylight. B) I shave my head every other day & stubble doesn't really get affected by wind.
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...B) I shave my head every other day & stubble doesn't really get affected by wind.
It is great to have short hair once in a while. I have mine all cut off at least three or four times a year.
I just had it all cut off yesterday.
I bought a new motorcycle a few weeks ago and I love not having to worry about hair style when dealing with a helmet.

When I was a little boy my mother told me and my 5 brothers that if we let our Dad cut all our hair off, it would grow back thicker and nicer.
Like the lawn.
Of course we never believed her but we typically relented anyway.

These days all 6 of us continue to get all our hair cut off a few times a year. It's sort of a funny, family tradition. And for what it's worth, me and my brothers still all have a good head of hair. And most of our male cousins are bald.


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An old 510 fan! Great little car with the Mulholland suspension but prone to rear-wheel steering.
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This is my Datsun 510 SCCA Pro-Rally car from the late '70s. This particular event was the Susquehannock Trail Rally in Wellsboro, Pennsylvania in '77. John Buffum won in a BDA Twin-Cam Escort. We ended up with over a dozen flat tires as well as lots of undercarriage damage. Pro-Rally was terrifying.
I had several street 510s too. I still race against several 510s in our vintage road racing events.


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Hi Hume,
3. Agree. Got the rear wiper - wish it has a spray jet too though! I remembered what a pain it was without a rear wiper on the last TT I had.
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+1 Agree. Got the rear wiper on my 2019 Cayman after cursing the lack for one on both my long gone TTs. So far it clears snow just fine.
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