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Maybe not apples to apples, but I think the 718 could face real down market pressure from its kin the TT. Audi and Porsche are known not to like each other as well as corporate cousins should, will this lead to a real brand war?

I mean lets consider, if the 718 is enough downmarket who is going to buy an Audi TT, even an RS TT with that stupid sexy straight 5 won't have a chance against Porsche, because lets face it, Porsche.

Yet if the 718 is too upmarket or too close to the Boxer/Cayman, either the 718 will be substituted for the Boxster/Cayman or shoppers will move downmarket to the TT...
 

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It seems like a pretty tight space that the 718 is trying to operate in. It will be interesting to see how they maneuver through that. Both brands and models have quite a bit of clout so it should be an entertaining fight to see take place.
 

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It seems like a pretty tight space that the 718 is trying to operate in. It will be interesting to see how they maneuver through that. Both brands and models have quite a bit of clout so it should be an entertaining fight to see take place.
Be serious. You have a choice Porsche vs Audi, which do you choose...
 

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Be serious. You have a choice Porsche vs Audi, which do you choose...
It's a pretty tough choice TBH. Both are great brands. I think that for me it would come down to the interiors. Which is more comfortable for me? Which looks nicer? It's unclear right now how bare bones the interior of the 718 will be.
 

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you're going to be sorely disappointed. I'm starting to thinkt he 718 may not be the car for you, its a drivers car not a passengers car. WE're talking abot cloth seats, manual windows and limited electronic gizmology....
 

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My knowledge is date, but may still be valid.

When I was shopping for a used Boxster in 2004, I test drove the Boxster, BMW's Z3 and the Audi TT. I had very high hopes for the TT because I find its aesthetics appealing. However after no more than half a block driving it, I took it back to the dealership. It looks nice to me (the first variation, anyway, which is what I tested), but I felt like I was sitting in a bathtub. I hated it. It was like driving a Checker cab.

My '01 Boxster now has 130,000 miles on it and, although I had to replace the engine, which I was not happy about, it is solidly a driver's car.

I think if you want a driver's car -- regardless of whether you race or track -- the 718 may be for you. If you want something more luxurious or flashy (and that has its appeal, certainly), you're more likely to go with the increasingly upmarket Boxster or a 911.
 

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you're going to be sorely disappointed. I'm starting to thinkt he 718 may not be the car for you, its a drivers car not a passengers car. WE're talking abot cloth seats, manual windows and limited electronic gizmology....
even like that it will still be nice for most, definitely not for those that really care about what the interior looks like and all the fabrics, finishes, trim, etc... it's not why you buy a porsche, as you clearly know.
 

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New TT roadster has been spied out and about...





As always when it comes down to substance, the TT is simply a Golf asking for money...
 

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I get the feeling that the new TT really isn't going to look much different from the last one. I bet you they will look almost identical.

 

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yeah they likely will, seems like it will follow a the typical way audi design progresses from what we have seen .
 

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its called evolution not revolution. Its hard to criticise Audi for that when Porsche has been doing it for what 40+ years...
 

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its called evolution not revolution. Its hard to criticise Audi for that when Porsche has been doing it for what 40+ years...
I didn't really mean it as a criticism. I was just trying to predict what I thought we would be seeing from the next Audi TT model. The Audi TT is a really recognizable design at this point, so I imagine that they would want to keep it that way and just give it a little bit of an update.
 

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both brands have done a good job at sticking with their desgins for as long as they have and still keeping it alive enough, but i know some people really want to see something different from them.
 

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Maybe the interior of the 718 won't be the nicest stock, but I imagine that you can add on some options to amp it up a bit.
 

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I think that if Audi does venture out and do something different it is going to be in the form of a concept first. If they want to come out with a cool new design, it should be a brand new model, not something that is already out there.
 
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