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Hey folks. Had a 987 Cayman, currently have a 981 Boxster, was looking at the 718. Any 981 owners who stepped up to a 718? Thoughts? Regrets?

Test drove the 718, way faster........love the radio interface. Would love to hear from someone who has daily-driven both.

My current 981:
 

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Hey rojo, there are a number of former/current 981 owner/drivers on the forum so you should get some feedback specific to the previous generation.

My path went 996.1>996.2>987S so I jumped a couple generations to my 718S. I had my Boxster S for 12 years so you know I found it an almost perfect car. The 718 feels like an evolution of that mid-engined platform but at the same time feels dramatically different, as the performance envelope is just so much expanded in every dimension.

For me, that's to a large extent because of -- not in spite of -- the turbo-4. (I came across that turn-of-phrase in a review, but I think it perfectly captures the reality of a situation largely obscured by the frenzy of irrational derision directed at the one 'disruptive change' in the new car which really threatens the status-quo). Honestly, I think the debate which ought to be raging around the new engine is just how much horsepower did Porsche really pack in there above-and-beyond its way-understated factory rating (the 2.5/VTG gives the S real-world performance in line with 390 Porsche horsepower as compared to contemporary same-weight PDK-equipped turbo Carreras, slotting in right between the base 911 and S).

Despite having skipped over the 981 generation, I have a world of admiration for that model as the basis for the 718 (both aesthetics and platform dynamics). I reckon the 718 recipe could be: "start with 981, sprinkle in platform upgrades from Spyder/GT/911 Turbo, add splash of 918 styling touches; infuse with power from 991.2 served up in 919-sized helpings topped with VTG from 911 Turbo".

So I'm always keen to read what 981 drivers around here have to say. Please continue to share your impressions.....
 

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Hi, and welcome to the forum. I've owned 987 S, 981S, 981 GTS, and now a 718 Boxster S. These were/are my everyday drivers. I also owned 991 Turbo S and Audi R8 V10 Plus. I've gotten rid of the Turbo and the R8 - power is unusable, and neither handle as well or are as much driving fun as the 718S.

I'm sure you've read it many times - the 4 cylinder turbo 718S doesn't sound as good as a 981 GTS and that's true. It just happens to be better in every other way than the 981 or 987 platforms.

If you buy a 718, you will likely only be disappointed if engine/exhaust sound is your #1 priority. If all other aspects of performance are more important, you should be plenty happy if you buy a 718. BTW, the Porsche 991 Turbo cars make engine and exhaust sounds that are probably worse than those of the 718. Porsche just doesn't do turbo sound well, or choose not to. The R8 V10 sounds are to die for. As far as a daily driver, the 718 has been rock solid, so far.
 

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Hello, here is my sports car career path: 1984 Porsche 944,1991 964,2007 Audi RS4 ( V8-420HP), 2010 356 Speedster replica, 2005 997 cabrio, and now a 2017 718 Cayman S. All these cars are from different generations, and the 718S is by far the fastest, stiffest, more fun to drive. Sound is great for me and far better than a 964 even if I removed the secondary exhaust, and even better than the 997 cabrio with the standard exhaust. So it depends with what you compare in the PORSCHE WORLD. The Audi RS4 was fantastic, very fast on straight line, sound was typical german V8, but 0-100km per h in 4,2 sec, same as 718S !! And the RS4 on a track was too front heavy whereas the 718 S is a track beast, especially since I bought second set of wheels + Nitto track tires.

So far, 718 S is best bang for the buck for me. I tried a 2015 GT3 last summer, a real track car, fast but barely comfy enough for road use, and you really need to rev it up to get that scream song, and to get the power to the wheels. Didn’t like it much, prefer the 718 for what I do, road use 90% and 2-3 track week ends every year.

Hope it helps.
 

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I had a 2012 987.2 Boxster. The 718 Boxster is a better car in every way, including sound. Of course, sound is subjective judgment.
 
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I had a 2007 Cayman, 2014 Boxster S and am now 2 months into a 2017 Cayman S. Each change took what I loved about the prior car and enhanced it. My favorite thing about these cars is the mid-engine balance and low center of gravity. When you hit a curve or dip hard, you feel merged with the car. What I've noticed is that the additional power brought from 1 to 2 and now 2 to 3, has only enhanced that "oneness". You can take the car harder and accelerate out faster.

As much I as liked aspects of the Boxster S, I don't think convertibles are for me. The car just didn't feel as tight as the Caymans, particularly when making slow turns into driveways or parking lots where there was a bit of an uphill slant. The car always seemed to flex and creak a bit.

The 2017 Cayman S feels must more solid (like it was carved out of a single block of aluminum) and adds in much better acceleration. I use this as my DD and I don't think I've used the Sport mode yet (I've certainly never pushed it that hard in that mode) because the car is amazingly responsive in regular mode. It engages heavy acceleration way faster than my 981BS. I'll eventually start using Sport mode but I figure I'm having enough fun as is but the novelty of the car will wear off a bit after another X months and then I'll be able to turn Sport on to regain the thrill (this goes to 11!).
 

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Greetings. I realize this is an older thread and I don't like hijacking but I drove a 718 base model today and fell in love. But as I started searching around and reading, some would suggest find a low mileage 981 S instead. Any new thoughts or opinions? Other than drivetrain, what are the differences? I currently have a M-B SLK250 and it's a nice cruiser but I rarely drive it. The Cayman is just a different animal all together. If I had something like the Porsche in my stable, I'm fairly certain I would find reasons to be on the road with it a lot more than my current steed.
 

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Greetings. I realize this is an older thread and I don't like hijacking but I drove a 718 base model today and fell in love. But as I started searching around and reading, some would suggest find a low mileage 981 S instead. Any new thoughts or opinions? Other than drivetrain, what are the differences? I currently have a M-B SLK250 and it's a nice cruiser but I rarely drive it. The Cayman is just a different animal all together. If I had something like the Porsche in my stable, I'm fairly certain I would find reasons to be on the road with it a lot more than my current steed.
My best advice would be to go drive a 981S and see for yourself. It'll be a naturally aspirated engine, which I have a soft spot for...just can't beat that instant throttle response.

My "first post" outlined my experiences with a 981S vs a 718S (I didn't drive the base): https://www.718forum.com/forum/porsche-718-owners-registry-check-area/16188-porsche-lust.html
 

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Hi I owned a 2016 Boxster S and just purchased a 2018 Cayman. I could have purchased a 2017 718 but decided to go with the last of the naturally aspirated flat six. After just two weeks of 718 ownership I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six. I like the 718 much more than the 981. Its faster and actually sounds better.
 

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Hi I owned a 2016 Boxster S and just purchased a 2018 Cayman. I could have purchased a 2017 718 but decided to go with the last of the naturally aspirated flat six. After just two weeks of 718 ownership I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six. I like the 718 much more than the 981. Its faster and actually sounds better.
Whichever one you like best is the right choice.
I'm glad it's the one you have now, not the one you sold!:)
 

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Hi I owned a 2016 Boxster S and just purchased a 2018 Cayman. I could have purchased a 2017 718 but decided to go with the last of the naturally aspirated flat six. After just two weeks of 718 ownership I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six. I like the 718 much more than the 981. Its faster and actually sounds better.
Thanks man! I appreciate the input. The whole 981 option keeps popping up as I read but I keep leaning towards the 718. So many upgrades as far as performance and tech. And if the sound bothers me, there's always an aftermarket exhaust. Haha!:D
 

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Hi I owned a 2016 Boxster S and just purchased a 2018 Cayman. I could have purchased a 2017 718 but decided to go with the last of the naturally aspirated flat six. After just two weeks of 718 ownership I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six. I like the 718 much more than the 981. Its faster and actually sounds better.
I don't understand this post. There is no flat six 718. Typo?
 

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Hi I owned a 2016 Boxster S and just purchased a 2018 Cayman. I could have purchased a 2017 718 but decided to go with the last of the naturally aspirated flat six. After just two weeks of 718 ownership I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six. I like the 718 much more than the 981. Its faster and actually sounds better.
I don't understand this post. There is no flat six 718. Typo?
...no typo Matt... Read it carefully. He previously purchased a 2016 Boxster with a flat six instead of buying a 2017 with a flat 4 turbo. This is what he meant when he said "I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six". He now owns a 2018 Cayman, which he loves (ie., prefers the flat 4 turbo 718 over his previous flat six 981)....Is this kind of like that "outlaw" mount...LOL... ?
 

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Hi I owned a 2016 Boxster S and just purchased a 2018 Cayman. I could have purchased a 2017 718 but decided to go with the last of the naturally aspirated flat six. After just two weeks of 718 ownership I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six. I like the 718 much more than the 981. Its faster and actually sounds better.
I don't understand this post. There is no flat six 718. Typo?
...no typo Matt... Read it carefully. He previously purchased a 2016 Boxster with a flat six instead of buying a 2017 with a flat 4 turbo. This is what he meant when he said "I'm not sure I made the right decision to go with the flat six". He now owns a 2018 Cayman, which he loves (ie., prefers the flat 4 turbo 718 over his previous flat six 981)....Is this kind of like that "outlaw" mount...LOL... ?
I'm sure you are right. I still think it's confusing!?
 

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Wow, has it been nearly ten months since I first posted in this thread? I have to admit, upon re-reading my 'championing' of the the 718 -- esp. its turbo engine -- seems a little over-the-top, and well, a bit unnecessary.

To repeat a great (and relevant) quote someone posted here, "time makes more converts than reason". I see the truth of that starting to be reflected over in the purist forums, where some of our own are "speaking truth to (horse)power". Kudos to you, guys. I just don't have the patience to wage that long battle and deal with the still-present hostility stemming from deeply-ingrained resistance to change.

Still I am saddened to see more of that toxic stuff appearing in 'our own' 718 forum (see my recent post history), where it's been nice to celebrate our cars and extol their virtues without having to combat prejudiced misinformation all the time. Or be accused of disparaging 981s simply because I compare them to 718s when analyzing engine performance from a dispassionate engineering perspective. Of course that comparison looks unfavorable to the prev-gen, and we will be in the same position soon enough when the next-gen turbos, hybrids and formula-e arrive. Let's hope we handle it with class and quiet confidence in our own rides' place in the Porsche evolution and the driving pleasure they give us -- as those things are never diminished by new technology and increased horsepower ratings.
 
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