[shappy]

Before getting this car, I had read in more than one review that the 718 likes to bog when leaving a stop. I have noticed this issue with mine and, short revving to 4500 rpms and slipping the clutch every time, is there another technique I should explore? Any suggestions would be welcomed...thanks.

 

[RussellHodgson]

I've never experienced this with my 718 CS. it always shoots off the line, so much so I have to give extra space to the cars ahead so I don't catch them. I usually rev to around 2000 RPM and hold it there (+/- 200 rpm) when moving from a stop.

You definintely don't need to rev it much above that to get moving easily without bogging down.

 

[shappy]

I've never experienced this with my 718 CS. it always shoots off the line, so much so I have to give extra space to the cars ahead so I don't catch them. I usually rev to around 2000 RPM and hold it there (+/- 200 rpm) when moving from a stop.

You definintely don't need to rev it much above that to get moving easily without bogging down.

Perhaps I do need to try leaving the line at different RPM's. I am just so used to being able to leave the line with just the slightest amount of above-idle RPM's that I just need to learn to adjust.

Here are a couple examples of what reviewers have mentioned in regards to this:

 

[jt4006]

I too have this problem on occasion. The drivetrain can be touchy. For me it just takes a bit more finesse when releasing the clutch while simultaneously applying throttle to get that smooth bite at low RPM's. I attribute it to the lower rotating mass/momentum of the 4 cyl engine if you get the process even slightly out of sync. I also drive a 993 C4 which requires less attention to get it moving. For some reason I get more satisfaction out of a smooth drive off in the 718, maybe because it's not as easy and, dare I say it, requires a bit more skill (?)...

 

[chester7]

Do you guys have the 2.0 liter or the 2.5 liter? I have never had a bog issue with my 718 GTS.

 

[shappy]

Do you guys have the 2.0 liter or the 2.5 liter? I have never had a bog issue with my 718 GTS.

I have a GTS as well.

 

[jt4006]

2 liter.

 

[dreamer]

If I haven’t driven in a while I give a slight blip to the throttle before releasing the clutch until I get my smooth timing back.

 

[RussellHodgson]

Perhaps I do need to try leaving the line at different RPM's. I am just so used to being able to leave the line with just the slightest amount of above-idle RPM's that I just need to learn to adjust.

Here are a couple examples of what reviewers have mentioned in regards to this:

Those quotes both seem to be trying for the best possible 0-60 times. I'm never trying for that. I just want to get away from a standing stop smoothly. For me the ~2000 RPM works well.

 

[JazzCatGab]

The base 2.0 version does not have the turbo with VGT and thus is unable to spin up below 2,500 RPMs like the S and GTS versions. Also, PDK versions have launch control, which also eliminates the delay. See the manual.

 

[shappy]

The base 2.0 version does not have the turbo with VGT and thus is unable to spin up below 2,500 RPMs like the S and GTS versions. Also, PDK versions have launch control, which also eliminates the delay. See the manual.

Thanks, but like the title of the post says, this is related to the manual transmission.

 

[JazzCatGab]

Thanks, but like the title of the post says, this is related to the manual transmission.

Oops, yep, but the first sentence still applies, although I think it is VTG instead (Variable Turbine Geometry). I have a base Cayman with the manual, so no stomp and go for me. My (mal)functional equivalent is clutch engagement to high 2,000 RPMs and then hard accelerate. Something I rarely have to do.

 

[BillyX]

shappy,
I have a 2019 Cayman Base. Here's my advise:

Open your window. Turn off the AutoStart. Keep your eyes off the tach. Let out the clutch slowly until you feel it begin to grab. You'll hear the Revs decrease. Then, some slight throttle while slowly releasing the clutch. You'll coast away (unless headed up a hill). As you get the hang of it, go less slowly.

RPMs and the tach won't help you. Use sound and left foot feel. I have the advantage of the louder performance exhaust, which I highly recommend to all.

 

[DPC]

The base 2.0 version does not have the turbo with VGT and thus is unable to spin up below 2,500 RPMs like the S and GTS versions. Also, PDK versions have launch control, which also eliminates the delay. See the manual.

I have an '18 base PDK. In 7th gear I see turbo boost at any rpm when I hit a hill or just need to accelerate. There's definite lag in lower rpms, below 3000, but the turbo will spin at any rpm upon demand. I had a previous '17 718S PDK and at low throttle, even on a hill, there was little to no boost. The 2ltr and 2.5ltr have very different personalities. The 2.5ltr was instant torque at any rpm with very little boost.

 

[stevesinclair]

I have an '18 base PDK. In 7th gear I see turbo boost at any rpm when I hit a hill or just need to accelerate. There's definite lag in lower rpms, below 3000, but the turbo will spin at any rpm upon demand. I had a previous '17 718S PDK and at low throttle, even on a hill, there was little to no boost. The 2ltr and 2.5ltr have very different personalities. The 2.5ltr was instant torque at any rpm with very little boost.

So because of this, do you miss the 718S? Could you explain more about the “personality” differences? Thx

 

[roundtail]

OP, what else have you been driving by way of MT? I’ve driven many MTs over the years, and find that the 718 is a different animal. Initially, I had some difficulty being consistent.

Then I happened across a Porsche video on seating position. I discovered I was sitting too high. Having lowered my seat considerably, I found a huge improvement. I think the 718 clutch favors a more horizontal leg movement.

Also, I find the change in throttle travel between Normal and Sport modes can throw off my technique. Normal mode requires a deeper push on the pedal, and I have to remind myself once in awhile to consider that. Are you having the same results in both modes?

Like BillyX, I don’t bother with the tach. I think those excerpts from reviewers are written by someone who has the car for but a day, and cares not what is left of the clutch when they’re done. I do not have such a luxury and would advise against those techniques.

 

[chester7]

I am surprised. I believe I'm just an average driver, and have found both my 718 GTS and 944 Turbo to have the best clutch engagement of any of my cars, past and present. I did read some auto reviewers thought the HOLD feature made them look bad. But I have no issue with that either. I wonder if the guys who are having issues are used to manual transmissions in American V8's. Just looking for a common thread.

 

[shappy]

I will say that, other than the '12 Golf R I had, I have had limited experience with turbo-4's. Most of my cars have been normally aspirated or supercharged. This is not really an issue when leaving from a stop in normal traffic, more with wanting to leave the line with some "enthusiasm."

 

[chester7]

I will say that, other than the '12 Golf R I had, I have had limited experience with turbo-4's. Most of my cars have been normally aspirated or supercharged. This is not really an issue when leaving from a stop in normal traffic, more with wanting to leave the line with some "enthusiasm."

Ahhh... My 944 Turbo took a while (above 3000-3500 rpm) to pull strong. Maybe its the nature of turbo engines that you are experiencing. I've had so many turbos that I'm used to their behavior.

 

[shappy]

Ahhh... My 944 Turbo took a while (above 3000-3500 rpm) to pull strong. Maybe its the nature of turbo engines that you are experiencing. I've had so many turbos that I'm used to their behavior.

My dad had an '86 944 Turbo, and I remember that car very well. Definitely much more lag in that car than most modern turbos.