[wriggly]

Without the PDK short shifting into 7th gear? It's nice to have a quieter experience but I hate the fact the PDK up shifts into 7th and the engine lugs. I know I can go into manual. Any other options!

 

[aeronca65tl]

In the short term, just pull on the left paddle, even if it's in "auto", and it will drop a gear. Eventually it will upshift.

If you are in "sport" setting, it won't upshift quite as soon.

 

[johan]

It is an odd feeling to have a sport car shifting up to the highest gear so early.
But i cant see that Porsche allows it to be bad for the Engine/turbo like lugging.
It will shift down when needed.


You can also let it be in Auto up to 6 gear then flip the stick to the left for manual mode.

 

[My718isPorsche#5]

Old school, going back to when a 356 was new we kept the engine above about 2500 rpm. I keep mine in sport because it raises the shift points. Like someone said before with PDK, Porsche will down shift if lugging.

 

[johan]

I did some testing today in Normal mode, around 55 mph and in seventh gear.
Press the throttle a bit and at the same sec the boost goes over 1,4psi it goes down to sixth gear.
I did the same thing at 65 mpg and a little more boost is allowed before it shifts, around 2,9psi
All was done with a very sensitive foot, press it a bit harder and it shifts immediately.


Thats not lugging if you ask me

 

[GregW]

I did some testing today in Normal mode, around 55 mph and in seventh gear.
Press the throttle a bit and at the same sec the boost goes over 1,4psi it goes down to sixth gear.
I did the same thing at 65 mpg and a little more boost is allowed before it shifts, around 2,9psi
All was done with a very sensitive foot, press it a bit harder and it shifts immediately.


Thats not lugging if you ask me

Agreed. Every car I've managed to lug (most, as I've been a manual driver for over 50 years) started to 'ping' as soon as the accelerator was pressed. The PDK has never done this.

I wonder if the feel of 'lugging' is just the interpretation of the normal vibration of the engine below 2000 rpm.

 

[johan]

Agreed. Every car I've managed to lug (most, as I've been a manual driver for over 50 years) started to 'ping' as soon as the accelerator was pressed. The PDK has never done this.

I wonder if the feel of 'lugging' is just the interpretation of the normal vibration of the engine below 2000 rpm.

I guess your right, my first drive in a 718 felt odd to say the least but after i bought the first one it took a week or two the i was used to it.

 

[wriggly]

I don't mean lugging in the usual classic literal sense. Just that it upshifts too quickly in the normal mode and the revs are too low for the speed. My GT350 has 6 gears and I never use 6th gear. I can see cruising on an interstate at 75mph and seeing 6th in the Shelby or 7th in the Cayman, but I never drive either of those cars in that type of setting. I primarily drive the cars on two lane country roads where the limits are 50-55 mph and the top gears are too much for either car at those speeds in my opinion.
My daily driver/grocery getter is a 17 Chrysler Pacifica with a V6 and 9 speed trans. The van has a very well thought out shift map and starts in 2nd gear unless you floor it from a stop it'll never use 1st. It too short shifts and keeps the revs very low, 1500 rpm or even lower at some times. Accelerating up to the 50-55 mph speeds common around here it will use maybe 6 of the speeds and settle into 7th at a steady state at 55. It'll shift into 8th gear at typical freeway speeds but I don't think it's ever gone to its 9th gear. The engine torque and the trans logarithm in the van are very good and it's a very pleasant and quiet vehicle and never feels lacking for torque or responsiveness.

I guess I was just hopeful there was some way to personalize the Caymans individual mode to utilize the shifting of sport mode along with the exhaust quietness of the normal mode. I drive the Cayman in sport mode most of the time and I love the shift mapping, just wish it were a little quieter in sport mode.

 

[GregW]

<snip>I drive the Cayman in sport mode most of the time and I love the shift mapping, just wish it were a little quieter in sport mode.

Whenever I need response (not usually around town--there's no point!) Sport mode does me well and I don't find the sound intrusive at all. After listening to the videos of all the 'sport exhausts' and the PSE at the dealer, I ordered the plain exhaust for its more subtle tones, made better by disconnecting the soundaktor.

I also realise that I'm in the minority in liking subtlety. :laugh:

 

[johan]

I don't mean lugging in the usual classic literal sense. Just that it upshifts too quickly in the normal mode and the revs are too low for the speed. My GT350 has 6 gears and I never use 6th gear. I can see cruising on an interstate at 75mph and seeing 6th in the Shelby or 7th in the Cayman, but I never drive either of those cars in that type of setting. I primarily drive the cars on two lane country roads where the limits are 50-55 mph and the top gears are too much for either car at those speeds in my opinion.
My daily driver/grocery getter is a 17 Chrysler Pacifica with a V6 and 9 speed trans. The van has a very well thought out shift map and starts in 2nd gear unless you floor it from a stop it'll never use 1st. It too short shifts and keeps the revs very low, 1500 rpm or even lower at some times. Accelerating up to the 50-55 mph speeds common around here it will use maybe 6 of the speeds and settle into 7th at a steady state at 55. It'll shift into 8th gear at typical freeway speeds but I don't think it's ever gone to its 9th gear. The engine torque and the trans logarithm in the van are very good and it's a very pleasant and quiet vehicle and never feels lacking for torque or responsiveness.

I guess I was just hopeful there was some way to personalize the Caymans individual mode to utilize the shifting of sport mode along with the exhaust quietness of the normal mode. I drive the Cayman in sport mode most of the time and I love the shift mapping, just wish it were a little quieter in sport mode.

I have locked my PSE so its always open and done the 981 mod on the exhaust and i still drive mostly in Sport, and i am always in manual mode.
*Noisy boy*
Normal mode is like for fuel saving caused by the regulations.
The only time i use auto mode is in Sport+ but i do the upshifts since i think it shifts to late.

 

[Zydi]

My strategy is to drive in Sport mode. Find the shifts appropriate and responsive enough in evey situation. In Sport mode however the car will never use the 7th gear and you may want it use on highways so I just upshift with the paddle un auto mode and it will stay in 7th as long as you do not accelerate hard.

I find this really the most convenient and appropriate shifting behaviour for a Porsche sports car. If you find the exhaust noise too intrusive you also can switch off the PSE via the button.