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I'm very happy with the standard exhaust--especially in Sport mode. I just wish I could turn off the farts without losing the extra tone that Sport gives. PSE is just too loud for me.
+1 on turning off the farts :)

I don't want louder pops, I just want a throatier sound.

BTW - my car has less than 3000 miles and the standard exhaust is getting better sounding. I wonder how long until it reaches steady-state (more or less)??
 

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I'm not sure--I'm at 11,000 Km and I think it's still improving, although that could be my imagination.:laugh:
That's great to know. I'm really liking how it's changing though don't really understand why.

One reason I would add PSE is because I have an annoying (to me) vibration at 3000RPM which the dealer says is normal and I think would be masked if the exhaust was louder. I.e. I don't notice it as much with music on or the top down.
 

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That's great to know. I'm really liking how it's changing though don't really understand why. <snip>
At a recent Porsche function I had a chat with the service manager and he confirmed that the exhaust sound changes for a while. The engine beds in and runs smoother with less mechanical friction and other noises, the exhaust itself settles down, the carbon build-up both insulates the sounds and smooths and narrows slightly the pathway to the outside.

We had the chat while underneath a 718 that was head-height up on a lift. I found it fascinating to have a view that was so different from anything I could manage by myself. (The brake ducts are huge!)

A few years ago I had a race exhaust specialist work on my Moto Guzzi 1100 and he said much the same. To ensure it stayed street legal I had to go back and have it re-measured after 5000 Km.

In both the car and bike I much prefer the sound now compared to when the exhausts (and car) were brand new. The sort of "hollow" notes disappear among other changes.
 

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PSE is just too loud for me.
Too loud not possible. It has to be loud, I have to be able to hear it over the music that is cranked up......

I looked into it. It is pretty much 4K to get it done after the fact.
It's more expensive after market and then you are giving some technician an opportunity to muck around and mess something up.....if my Porsche engine ever develops a problem they can't point to an after market exhaust or modification to weasel out of the warranty.
 

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It's more expensive after market and then you are giving some technician an opportunity to muck around and mess something up.....if my Porsche engine ever develops a problem they can't point to an after market exhaust or modification to weasel out of the warranty.

Well, I assume if I buy PSE from Porsche and have it installed at the Dealership then warranty issues are moot...
 

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Without question, the best place to have the PSE installed is at the factory. They install Sports exhaust all the live long day.........I had an oil change (see link) on my 718 and it literally took about three hours as they indicated it was the first one they had done. I stood there the whole time*, and I can tell you emphatically, have the factory install the PSE if at all possible.

http://www.718forum.com/forum/oils-fluids-fuel-additives-lubrications/7618-oil-change.html


*on top of that it had to be redone
 

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Understood, but some of us don't always have that option. I mean I suppose I could not buy the car, but I'd rather not do that. I probably won't add it later (my R32 is still stock, so "mods" aren't really my thing). My only point was that while an aftermarket exhaust could cause warranty issues I can't imagine the PSE, purchased from Porsche and installed by the dealer, could void warranty.
 

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Understood, but some of us don't always have that option. I mean I suppose I could not buy the car, but I'd rather not do that. I probably won't add it later (my R32 is still stock, so "mods" aren't really my thing). My only point was that while an aftermarket exhaust could cause warranty issues I can't imagine the PSE, purchased from Porsche and installed by the dealer, could void warranty.
I understand regarding the warranty but I want to assure the forum members understood that it's both cheaper and safer, if possible, to have the factory do the install. I also understand that there are forum members that want a specific non-Porsche exhaust but I prefer to have one that was engineered for the 718.
 

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I understand regarding the warranty but I want to assure the forum members understood that it's both cheaper and safer, if possible, to have the factory do the install. I also understand that there are forum members that want a specific non-Porsche exhaust but I prefer to have one that was engineered for the 718.
My only point is that, right now it's just "a bridge too far", like PTV. But, if I really absolutely decided I needed it later, I could get it done and keep my factory warranty, which isn't true for an aftermarket warranty. Still safer/better to have it done at the factory for sure, but it's one of the things where I really want to see if I like the factory exhaust first.
 

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There are specific tuners and companies which typically work with car makers and will have their items under warranty, or at least not void factory warranty. Some dealerships will even install those aftermarket mods under that understanding. I only know of MB and Audi, nothing on Porsche yet.

Cost is one thing which depends on ones specific situation and allowable budget, but at the end of the day, 4K in cash along with other mods would just be justification for me to trade up with the options installed versus doing it aftermarket.
 

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Well, when I heard it on a test drive I wasn't impressed. I figured I'd try living with the factory exhaust for a while to see if it worked for me, and knowing that I could throw money at it later while retaining warranty was nice.
 

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Putting on an exhaust will not void your warranty. If there is an issue with your aftermarket exhaust, Porsche won’t cover it, because they didn’t make it, but unless the exhaust causes a failure of another component, which is extremely unlikely, you will have no issue. This applies in the US under the Magnesson Act
 

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New member - following this post on exhaust and possible upgrades. I recently purchased a used 718 Base that was produced for the 2017 model year. It has only 13K miles on it and nearly 3 years of warranty with the Certiified additional 2 years. It was originally a leased car with a lot of luxury options that I frankly could not have afforded if buying new. The one option it does not have that I would have liked is the PSE for a larger exhaust sound. I tend to keep my cars for long periods, so I am tempted to either switch out the stock exhaust and add a Soul exhaust system, or save up and trade in for a 2019 model that has PSE as standard. Would appreciate thoughts from those who have the 2019 Base model with PSE. Thanks and have enjoyed reading the comment on the forum.
 
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