Cayman and Boxster GTS 4.0 - 6 Cyl. - 400 HP
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without (or until) citing a reputable source it's probably from the hole in his keister
But it would be interesting and certainly there have been similar type rumors - just rumors.
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I heard a direct snippet from a major UK leasing company that Cayman 6 in GTS variant will be around March/April 2020, at a premium over and above the F4T. Didn't ask if both engines will be available concurrently, but if PDK 6 is not available at that point its feasible, no?
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At least like the 15 HP between the S and the GTS MY18
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If this does happen (and uncited sources always kinda get a yawn from me) I can predict the automotive press right now:
They will note that it doesn't perform quite as well as the GTS it "replaces" (assuming it's JUST an engine change and nothing else) on the street. During spirited driving (track/etc) it doesn't perform quite as well either, but they'll be having eargams and will blow all of that off because of the sound - even though the GT4 kinda sounds like crap and doesn't sound like a GT car in ever video I've heard.
They will note that it doesn't perform quite as well as the GTS it "replaces" (assuming it's JUST an engine change and nothing else) on the street. During spirited driving (track/etc) it doesn't perform quite as well either, but they'll be having eargams and will blow all of that off because of the sound - even though the GT4 kinda sounds like crap and doesn't sound like a GT car in ever video I've heard.
I have a few sources saying this, the same sources that also confirmed the flat 6 GT4. It kinda goes like this in most car brands, dealers having inside knowledge and advance notice of future models. But of course I won't be an A-hole and point out my sources.
(And to be honest, I will also not claim to know the complete future Porsche model lineup)
I do agree with you that it doesn't sound as good as the 981 engine. Automotive press doesn't like to say this out too loud as they wish to keep receiving invites from Porsche to their launches.
DPF (the new exhaust filters) in general just ruin car sounds.
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Very interesting, although it seems a little strange given how tight this model line already is. I suppose if the buyer is intent on a flat-6 and doesn't desire a Spyder/GT4 then they will now have a choice but I will be surprised if the HP comes in that close to the top model, IIRC the spread was 45HP in the 981's back in 2016.
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IDK. The MY18 GTS is an options package with a tweak to the S powerplant. Not the same as adding a GT car’s engine to the ”standard” chassis.
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I agree that tight placement has happened several times.
But is that not normally just between non-GT models?
Don't the GT models normally have a decent gap to the regular models.
The big question is, will this be a GTS placement or will it be a new model between GTS and GT4.
If this is a GTS replacement then they have lots of room to place the HP.
My guess would be in the 390s range which makes for better marketing (GT4 over 400 & GTS under)
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We all glamour over the NA F6 soundtrack. Before recently purchasing a new 718 GTS I had only two other considerations. New M2C and used 981 CGTS. I loved the 981 soundtrack, but the 718 performance is far superior for daily/spirited driving interests. In truth, the 718 soundtrack is more than adequate, but simply finds itself subject to tough comparison when it comes to the 981.
When it came down to the M2C versus 718, that was a personal decision. I find the two extremely different driving experiences. I got sucked into the M2C hype and thrill, but ultimately recognized the 718 CGTS is a far superior sport car. I absolutely love my 718 and have absolutely no regrets . . . but I have decided to move forward and add the M2C to my garage. It is just so different than my 718, and provides a different form of driving pleasure/excitement. Will not digress any further than that on the topic.
Coming full circle, the prospect of having 718 CGTS with NA F6 engine would 'appear' to be the holy grail. Still, I am of the opinion that for daily/spirited driving enjoyment, hp is a non-factor. HP becomes a factor when you are on a track and trying to overtake an M3/4 at high speed down a straight away. What DOES make a difference is access to the low-end torque that provides the pull and pleasure most every daily driver is after. In a nutshell, it is the torque and associated pull that has me and just about everyone else so enthralled when it comes to the M2C . . . when it comes to the Tesla. Sorry, just nowhere near ready to travel the electric engine path, or give up all the other superior engineering aspects that go into making the 718 simply one of the best performance cars on the road.
So, I really do not care whatsoever if the prospect of a new NA F6 718 comes with 30 hp more than the 718 F4 turbo. The real question becomes whether Porsche engineers plan to produce a NA F6 718 with access to low-end torque comparable to the F4 turbo?
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When it came down to the M2C versus 718, that was a personal decision. I find the two extremely different driving experiences. I got sucked into the M2C hype and thrill, but ultimately recognized the 718 CGTS is a far superior sport car. I absolutely love my 718 and have absolutely no regrets . . . but I have decided to move forward and add the M2C to my garage. It is just so different than my 718, and provides a different form of driving pleasure/excitement. Will not digress any further than that on the topic.
Coming full circle, the prospect of having 718 CGTS with NA F6 engine would 'appear' to be the holy grail. Still, I am of the opinion that for daily/spirited driving enjoyment, hp is a non-factor. HP becomes a factor when you are on a track and trying to overtake an M3/4 at high speed down a straight away. What DOES make a difference is access to the low-end torque that provides the pull and pleasure most every daily driver is after. In a nutshell, it is the torque and associated pull that has me and just about everyone else so enthralled when it comes to the M2C . . . when it comes to the Tesla. Sorry, just nowhere near ready to travel the electric engine path, or give up all the other superior engineering aspects that go into making the 718 simply one of the best performance cars on the road.
So, I really do not care whatsoever if the prospect of a new NA F6 718 comes with 30 hp more than the 718 F4 turbo. The real question becomes whether Porsche engineers plan to produce a NA F6 718 with access to low-end torque comparable to the F4 turbo?
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The rumor has been around for a while . the "confirmation" is that the model (Boxster and Cayman) are now listed in insurance companies in Germany.
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Funny guy you are . no information you have ,,,, ?♂without (or until) citing a reputable source it's probably from the hole in his keister
But it would be interesting and certainly there have been similar type rumors - just rumors.
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It is actually 20 or 21 HP - 399 to 420 - so yes - not so much, but probably a fair difference
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