I never Karted (though I was addicted to the kart-like Malibu GP formula) but felt the same way about my 911s. Just knowing that engine mass was hung out there beyond the rear axle somehow inhibited my desire to push it anywhere near its limits in the twisties. Maybe I was just too ingrained in the reputation of earlier 911 generations to 'swap ends' -- but they were never as fun to drive fast, for me, as the lower-power mid-engine Ferrari which preceded and Boxsters which followed. Of' course the latter have all been open-air roadster/spyder format cars, which in combination with mid-engine yields the ultimate 'feels fast' (relative to power) factor....like karts.Never could get used to the lump behind the rear wheels sensation......That is just me and readily admitting to my early experiences racing Karts
I bought a '19 Carrera T last November. I drove it 7500 miles and traded it back in for a new Cayman GTS that was sitting at a dealer in NC.I'm not a fan of the Carrera T. For $3k more I'd take the Carrera S with the 50 extra hp or save the $11k and get the Carrera.
Setting aside potential warranty issues, the base Carrera can get an ECU flash for about $2k and get around 450 hp.
The 718 GTS would probably be a little over 400 hp with a flash.
Forget all that. To me, the base Carrera is a better comparison to the GTS. The Carrera is only about $6k more but only has a slight 5 hp advantage. Stock.
Btw, the writer was yet another pretentious auto journalist. Seriously? I've been driving for 35 years and never once did I ever think the heating elements from the rear window defogger were even the slightest bit obtrusive. What kind of wanker would use that as an excuse to say the thinner rear window was better?
As an aside, if you add the rear wipers on the Carrera T, it uses the regular "thick" window.
Speaking of Wisconsin roads, do you get up to the Driftless region?I bought a '19 Carrera T last November. I drove it 7500 miles and traded it back in for a new Cayman GTS that was sitting at a dealer in NC.
The T is a great car! If I'd kept it, I'd eventually have chipped it...but it's never going to be as great a sports car as a Cayman. It handles as well as a Carrera GTS and has all those handling goodies. Mine also had rear wheel steering. The thin rear window and the door pulls aren't needed, but they don't hurt anything. I thought the car was pretty quiet. I drove it all winter in Chicago area. My garage is heated but a couple times, I needed the rear to defog. I just turned on the AC and the fog went away from all the windows. Even with thin windows, it's still way quieter than this new Cayman is, even in Sport or Sport +. 375HP is quite a lot, in my book, especially with a torque curve like that thing had...and lower gearing.
I also tour my cars. I have a problem with getting 20 or so MPG on a tour. The T got 27 on a Chicago-Indy-Chicago trip I took with it. I was able to do all kinds of great stupid car tricks with it too. It was exciting to drive and good looking. The interior was very nice....But, for me, too big of a car and a bit scary at the limit and out of control. I don't like the 911 feeling of two big rear tires doing all the driving while the fronts just try to point the thing.
I've driven this Cayman GTS now enough to know what it can do..and I'm just floored by the handling. I had an '06 CS with coil-overs etc, etc. I thought that car had other-worldly handling, but the CGTS is better right out of the box than my '06 ever was.
I spent most of today flogging my Cayman around back roads in Wisconsin. What a joy! It is so balanced and capable.
I had turned around to go home today and was still on the most amazing roads in the midwest, which means not yet near where I live... when I went over a rise expecting to just go down a hill straight. Instead, I find a 35mph right turn with a full sized van coming the other way. I saw the end of my life and maybe others flash before my eyes. I must have missed the turn sign? Anyway, as soon as reality came into view, I braked a little, flicked the wheel a bit and gave it the slightest touch of throttle. All was well and kept it in my own lane....and we both went on our merry ways. I think I'd have become part of an accident scene if I'd been in the Carrera....or an M2. The Caymans are just so intuitive and neutral....and 718 is the best that I've driven. I had my '06 CS for almost 10 years and 100,000 miles. When I was thinking of replacing it, I tried a guy's 981S. I thought it was a bit boring to drive.
I still don't like the sound of my 718, if I'm being honest, but I'm learning to drive around the worst of the noises and I've removed the famous Soundaktor fuse. Also, I've set the programmable mode to the Normal setting without allowing the car to shut down at a stop. This keeps the exhaust quiet, the suspension soft and the engine mounts soft too... That's nice for driving around town with a minimum of intrusive vibrations in the chassis. When I'm out on the road cruising at sane speeds, I'm in Sport. When things get really interesting, I'm going to Sport Plus. I can feel what the car is doing a little better that way. It's only better when I'm pressing harder.
I love the power of this 718CGTS, and yes, if I choose the right area, I can drive it insanely fast on twisty public rural roads. I know where they are from riding many motorcycles all over this area. Track days will surely be a joy in this thing.
I'd love to flash my car but I'm going to wait a bit. It's pretty nice the way it is and I haven't digested all I want to before I even think about more power. ...wondering also about side effects of these chips. Who has done it? What kind of driving do you do with it? How does it change the character of the car? Is it prone to overheating with a chip installed? Anybody added a down-pipe with sport cat? Does that work well...again, with the side effect question. I went to the engine threads and I'm not getting much information.