[Baka1969]

2 out of three. Plus a close second.

 

[wriggly]

Cool...I had a few skeptics when I ran an 11:88 in my GTS last year.

 

[Chris NZ]

That Alpine was super quick off the line!

 

[Baka1969]

That Alpine was super quick off the line!

I don't think the Alpine was stock. Unless I'm mistaken.

 

[Chris NZ]

I don't think the Alpine was stock. Unless I'm mistaken.

It wasn't, it had a Litchfield tune which takes it up to around the same power as a base 718, so still well down on the others in the test, but it's light weight more than offsets the power deficit.

 

[Baka1969]

It wasn't, it had a Litchfield tune which takes it up to around the same power as a base 718, so still well down on the others in the test, but it's light weight more than offsets the power deficit.

It's not really a fair comparison then. Anything can win if enough power is added aftermarket.

 

[Chris NZ]

It's not really a fair comparison then. Anything can win if enough power is added aftermarket.

Maybe but it was still the least powerful car in the line up. When Alpine developed the A110 it had it's sights set on the base 718 Cayman so maybe an base A110 vs a base 718 or an A110 S vs a Cayman S or GTS might be more illuminating.

Either way it is a cracking car and there is a reason that the base A110 came second only to the McLaren 600LT on the evo car of the year test.

Anyway, I don't think 0-100 times are what either the Cayman or A110 are about - these are both cars where handling is their calling card. The car that was the real disappointment here was the TT RS, for whom the 0-100 time would have been very important.

 

[Baka1969]

Maybe but it was still the least powerful car in the line up. When Alpine developed the A110 it had it's sights set on the base 718 Cayman so maybe an base A110 vs a base 718 or an A110 S vs a Cayman S or GTS might be more illuminating.

Either way it is a cracking car and there is a reason that the base A110 came second only to the McLaren 600LT on the evo car of the year test.

Anyway, I don't think 0-100 times are what either the Cayman or A110 are about - these are both cars where handling is their calling card. The car that was the real disappointment here was the TT RS, for whom the 0-100 time would have been very important.

Although I'm not a fan myself, the Alpine reminds me more of a Lotus than a Porsche with its lighter weight, less power and focus on handling characteristics. Still, I don't think a modified Alpine is fair. Overall horsepower is only part of the picture. Power:weight is more important. In addition to other factors such as gearing and tires. All wheel drive vs two wheel drive also play a role.

All that said, I still don't believe it was a fair comparison. Although the Cayman GTS faired well against a stacked deck.

 

[GregW]

Carwow--Wow! He can't even pronounce Porsche!
And he doesn't seem to know anything about power/weight ratio or gearing or...
Carwow--bah!?

 

[don]

Yes, the Alpine is around is 1100kg/2430lb so it has a clear weight advantage, aside from the tune.

I had seen ~11.9 for the GTS but 11.7 for the 1/4 mile is really impressive. Maybe that one was well run in and the cool UK weather.

 

[Silversword]

Carwow have very little business doing tests like these when the bulk of their business is actually about finding people a £500 saving on a new Astra or CR-V.

Back in January I did (mostly out of amusement) look for a Cayman on there, and we are now in August with them not having got back to me with a single offer. I would be most interested to know how many Porsches are sold through that site