Several European magazines and MotorTrend have published GTS numbers:
Thats 981 vs 982
Just think: This was the fastest production car in the world at one time! It's still fast by today's standards, yet we have a 718 Cayman S / GTS with Sport Chrono and PDK that can either match or beat this AWD twin turbo monster 959 from the late 80's (this was one of my posters on my wall as a kid). Keep in mind, there are numerous Ferrari's and Lambos from the 90's and 2000's using massive V8's, sometimes even twin turbo V8's, and also Italy's beloved V12's that would have a hard time keeping up with a modern flat 4 with a single turbo in the 718 S / GTS.
And your wife's 335, even stock, would show it's taillights to the prancing horse redhead. No question this is the golden age of performance!Just think: This was the fastest production car in the world at one time! It's still fast by today's standards, yet we have a 718 Cayman S / GTS with Sport Chrono and PDK that can either match or beat this AWD twin turbo monster 959 from the late 80's (this was one of my posters on my wall as a kid). Keep in mind, there are numerous Ferrari's and Lambos from the 90's and 2000's using massive V8's, sometimes even twin turbo V8's, and also Italy's beloved V12's that would have a hard time keeping up with a modern flat 4 with a single turbo in the 718 S / GTS.
Even better: my BASE model 718 Cayman with 6mt and without Sport Chrono can Beat a Testarossa! It can Beat it on almost every measurable performance category! How about that??? Maybe the Testarossa would win on looks and a wee-bit higher resale value
Regardless of the performance times, unless you’re comparing a base S against a GTS, the price difference is only about $3k. For me the decision is more base 718 vs GTS. And with the base being such a strong performer overall, I’m not sure I’d want to pay $90k for a GTS. The price difference between a base 718 (without goodies) and a GTS is about $20k. If you load the base car up with all the options a GTS has, you close the gap to about $12k. When you’re talking that kind of money, it’s just worth it IMO to pony up the extra $12k for the GTS or $3k over the S. If you’re trying to save money, I don’t think there’s $20k worth of upgrades there to justify the expense. It’s just getting over not having the most powerful motor.
Us old folk remember this vividly. One of my all-time favorite cars is the Ferrari 308/328. Which is actually a fairly slow car. Especially by today's standards and wasn't particularly fast back then. That said, it's still one of the best looking and exciting exotics ever made. IMHO of course. Anyone remember the chase scene in Against All Odds?Just think: This was the fastest production car in the world at one time! It's still fast by today's standards, yet we have a 718 Cayman S / GTS with Sport Chrono and PDK that can either match or beat this AWD twin turbo monster 959 from the late 80's (this was one of my posters on my wall as a kid). Keep in mind, there are numerous Ferrari's and Lambos from the 90's and 2000's using massive V8's, sometimes even twin turbo V8's, and also Italy's beloved V12's that would have a hard time keeping up with a modern flat 4 with a single turbo in the 718 S / GTS.
Even better: my BASE model 718 Cayman with 6mt and without Sport Chrono can Beat a Testarossa! It can Beat it on almost every measurable performance category! How about that??? Maybe the Testarossa would win on looks and a wee-bit higher resale value
Because in perfect conditions a Honda Odyssey just might beat those 718 numbers!Also, a note about road test numbers: No one can directly compare one car over another car with objectivity unless the cars were tested on the same day, with the same weather, at the same location, running the same course, with the same driver, and with the same approach and methodology.
So unless any of the tests above met all of the above criteria, they are virtually worthless. >
Great scene!Us old folk remember this vividly. One of my all-time favorite cars is the Ferrari 308/328. Which is actually a fairly slow car. Especially by today's standards and wasn't particularly fast back then. That said, it's still one of the best looking and exciting exotics ever made. IMHO of course. Anyone remember the chase scene in Against All Odds?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYmgLO16ul0
The Lamborghini Countach didn't even do the 1/4 mile in under 14 seconds until it's last variant.
One of my other teenage favorites was the Porsche 944. Just like today's Cayman/Boxster, was considered an amazing sports car in its time.
Because in perfect conditions a Honda Odyssey just might beat those 718 numbers!
More on point to this thread, their compilation of Historical Laps 2006-2018 gives us one of just two same-track comparisons of 718 S to GTS (that I'm aware of). With all the caveats around different conditions, different (non-pro) drivers, likely different tires but same track, the 2017 S time lags the 2018 GTS by 1.8 seconds. On a 177-second lap, that's a 1% difference -- probably well within the window of confidence in this case. In other words, too close to call.
I think I know what you mean -- that after loading up an S with all the GTS track options the difference to a stripped GTS is down to $3k. But some here may find that a bit misleading. Just for clarity, comparing like-to-like, base-to-base, the 718 line looks roughly like this:
Correct, the gap is much smaller if you try to add all the GTS options onto the S.
