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Purchased my 718 base with just over 3k miles. I was thinking it looked lower than stock, even though I have PASM. I was at Mckenna Porsche today in Norwalk, Ca...I had them check the suspension....and yes, it has the H&R springs..

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johan
It was low!
Looks like its even lower then the S-Pasm.
Doesent it interfere with Pasm to change springs?
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johan said:
It was low!
Looks like its even lower then the S-Pasm.
Doesent it interfere with Pasm to change springs?
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Been wondering the same thing. Surely changing springs will change ride comfort? I don't have PASM on mine but was wondering about going for H&R or techart springs but am a bit worried that will make the ride too harsh... I will be using mine as a daily so needs to be slightly comfortable at least...
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TheWaitingGame said:
Been wondering the same thing. Surely changing springs will change ride comfort? I don't have PASM on mine but was wondering about going for H&R or techart springs but am a bit worried that will make the ride too harsh... I will be using mine as a daily so needs to be slightly comfortable at least...
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With all the cobble stone streets in some of the cities of Flanders I'd question whether that's a good idea. I once drove through Bruges city centre in a Peugeot I owned at the time & from that day on it rattled like a biscuit tin full of nuts & bolts. :)
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Chilli said:
TheWaitingGame said:
Been wondering the same thing. Surely changing springs will change ride comfort? I don't have PASM on mine but was wondering about going for H&R or techart springs but am a bit worried that will make the ride too harsh... I will be using mine as a daily so needs to be slightly comfortable at least...
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With all the cobble stone streets in some of the cities of Flanders I'd question whether that's a good idea. I once drove through Bruges city centre in a Peugeot I owned at the time & from that day on it rattled like a biscuit tin full of nuts & bolts.
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I am ashamed to admit you are absolutely right... and the amount of potholes where I live is disgraceful (which is why I am slightly worried about having optioned 20”. Will just have to be veeery careful). I hesitated on PASM but the only reason I would’ve gotten it is because the ride is 1 cm lower (not because of the suspension management as I am sure stock is comfortable enough for my purposes and I will likely not be tracking the car), hence my interest in aftermarket springs but I agree it may not be the best idea unless I want my teeth to be clattering when driving on our crappy roads (or I want to scrape my nose on one of Brussels’ countless speed bumps). Sigh...
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TheWaitingGame said:
I am ashamed to admit you are absolutely right... and the amount of potholes where I live is disgraceful
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Potholes seem to be a huge problem nowadays in whatever country you reside. Our friends in the U.S relay that many of their roads are shocking & ours in the U.K are currently pitiful, so you aren't alone.

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Chilli said:
Potholes seem to be a huge problem nowadays in whatever country you reside. Our friends in the U.S relay that many of their roads are shocking & ours in the U.K are currently pitiful, so you aren't alone.
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Agreed. Here in the northeast USA (New Jersey) the secondary roads become abysmal by mid-Winter. Mine is a base car with stock ride height and 18" wheels.........and even it will barely make it in some areas.
Yesterday there was such a large "road heave" at the entrance to my dentist's office, that I had to get out of the car to make sure I had enough clearance to make it into his parking lot.
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Robh
The ride is firm, handles great on canyon and mountain drives.
The roads in Southern Ca are pretty good...but you have use caution on driveways.
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That looks so good! Wish I could do that, but my driveway is way too steep. I'm about 2cm away from scraping with the standard suspension on a careful approach angle. Maybe I need to move...
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Robh said:
The ride is firm, handles great on canyon and mountain drives.
The roads in Southern Ca are pretty good...but you have use caution on driveways.
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I am in L.A. Where in So. Cal. are you? Tomorrow I was planning on doing the Angeles Crest Highway for the first time in my 718C.
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Lowering springs

I have owned a few MINIs and you had to make sure that the lowering springs did not bottom out the shocks. The lower JCW suspension included springs and shocks. Just a thought. I think that sport PASM is 20mm shorter than stock, not 30mm.
I understand the look of a lowered car, but I would not want to sacrifice any handling for that look.Hope everything works out. I am sure Porsche won't cover warranty on a suspension parts on a car that has been lowered with aftermarket springs.
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I have owned a few MINIs and you had to make sure that the lowering springs did not bottom out the shocks. The lower JCW suspension included springs and shocks. Just a thought. I think that sport PASM is 20mm shorter than stock, not 30mm.
I understand the look of a lowered car, but I would not want to sacrifice any handling for that look.Hope everything works out. I am sure Porsche won't cover warranty on a suspension parts on a car that has been lowered with aftermarket springs.
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Fortunately, your comment on Porsche hassling you for warranty issues with lowering springs is mostly inaccurate. Porsche has to PROVE that the warranty claim is DIRECTLY related to the lowering springs to even attempt to begin to deny a suspension claim. Surprisingly, Porsche is much more liberal to aftermarket modifications than several other manufacturers (think BMW, VW, Audi, etc...). We have so many modified Porsche's coming through our shop, some of them are heavily modified, and surprisingly, 90+% of them are worked on, warranty intact, no questions asked. That being said, a minority of Porsche Dealerships might give you a hard time for having mods. What I would recommend is to have an open and honest discussion with your Service Advisor. He'll guide you in to what type of mods you can likely get away with, that have little to no consequences.
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Robh
I am located in Rancho Cucamonga
Perhaps some day we can go for a cruise. Last sunday of every month I have been attending Cars and Cafe Newport Beach. I usually tag along with friends with Ferraris...
"Moulin Bistro cars an Cafe."...there is usually a good turnout of all cars.
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Just ordered a set of H&R springs for my GTS after speaking with OP. I will be daily driving mine unless the weather is bad. I already have SPASM and have had no issues with scraping and the roads out here in Idaho aren't exactly Laguna Seca. I really think a lot of you are over playing how low these cars are. The only Porsche cars you have to worry about (lowered or not) are the GT cars, they carry the lowest clearance in their front lips but are of course fitted with front lift (most of them) It really just comes down to sensible driving!
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ninesix said:
Just ordered a set of H&R springs for my GTS after speaking with OP. I will be daily driving mine unless the weather is bad. I already have SPASM and have had no issues with scraping and the roads out here in Idaho aren't exactly Laguna Seca. I really think a lot of you are over playing how low these cars are. The only Porsche cars you have to worry about (lowered or not) are the GT cars, they carry the lowest clearance in their front lips but are of course fitted with front lift (most of them) It really just comes down to sensible driving!
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Great! Please give feedback on ride quality and performance, compared to stock when you get installed..and of course pictures!!
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Andros X Thomson
I’m looking at doing the same. The only real issue I have are the speed bumps At my. Condo. My gti was much lower and didn’t have too much of an issue, but I’m worried since this is much lower than the gti
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Andros X Thomson said:
I’m looking at doing the same. The only real issue I have are the speed bumps At my. Condo. My gti was much lower and didn’t have too much of an issue, but I’m worried since this is much lower than the gti
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I live in a condo also, 5 speed bumps until my garage, just slow over them like any driveway approach and no problems.
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