Now that's a real airplane! Did my first lesson in a Super Cub in '87 (grass strip), now own a Turbo Arrow and drive a jet at work. You should have seen the looks I got at the SFO employee parking lot when I pulled up in my new Boxster yesterday. Ended up parking between a 911 and a new Cayman... As I figured those guys would be just as cautious to avoid dings...Aeronca65tl - Sorry to go off topic. But, I assume from your user name you fly or used to fly? I learned in an Aeronca Champ and J3.....soloed in 1964 in a J3 out of a little grass field in Monroe Ct.