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Let me start by saying I’m not a racing driver.
The only time I have been on a track in a car was at the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone for the day, shortly after buying my 718.
I had to recalibrate my brain then as to what the car is capable of.
There’s no way I would find the limits of the car safely on public roads.
( I wouldn’t treat my own car the way they get driven anyway)

On the odd occasion this Summer I have been able to enjoy my 718 on winding country roads when there was no other traffic around.
It will go round corners like it’s on rails, very confidence inspiring. No hint of losing grip at all.

Now Winter is around the corner things are different.

I was driving the car last week the temperature was showing 7c (45f) on the dash, the roads were damp.
I drove fairly quickly along a duel carriageway onto a large two lane roundabout that was going up a small hill.
There was no one else on the roundabout so I pushed the 718 just a little bit more on the roundabout itself and the back end let go and I found myself Drifting the car briefly. I counter steered into the Drift and then gently lifted off the accelerator and the car came back into line without any drama before my turning.

What have I learned from this...

The 718 felt very neutral and controllable when pushed to the edge of the grip, I didn’t have any sense of panic when it happened. Very confidence inspiring, not that I’d want to do it again regularly. Put a big smile on my face.

The other is that when driving in colder, damp and Wintery conditions you have to treat the throttle very gingerly, as the back end will let go easily when pushed. Just need to keep everything smooth.

So if you want to Drift your 718 other than doing it on a race track, drive your car in the Winter.
 

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Was PSM On, off, or in sport?
PSM was on and car was in standard driving mode not Sport.
It only let go because the roads were damp and I deliberately pushed it.
I’ve done it once before last Winter on a damp road coming out of a turning onto a straight road gave it to much throttle the back end stepped out briefly before PSM got everything back under control.
 

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I slightly drift around a corner at least every other day in my car. There are a few I target for just this reason ... and a few during which it just 'happens', hehe.

(Yes, this behavior is one reason my rear tires get half the mileage my fronts do! :devilish: )

Just yesterday, I was the only car in a left-turn-only queue at a stoplight. The road turned onto a three-lane avenue. I took the opportunity to delay turn-in a tad so I could sliiiiiide the car past the apex and into the center lane. (And this wa on a new set of PS4Ss with 110 miles on 'em). SO fun ... mostly because it's so controllable!
 

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The same thing happened to me when exiting a roundabout giving on a highway, just a couple weeks ago.
I was on the right lane and was somehow decided not letting the white van (its allways a white van) on my left undertake me, so I gave it a bit of gas as I was turning sharply out of the roundabout.
Then the back wheels gave off. That didnt made me slow down though, just played the wheel as I was keeping the gas on.
I never drifted in my life before that but it felt so contolable and putting it back straight just felt very natural.
Still a good thing the road was wide and, aside the white van, pretty clear!

It was a cold and wet evening. now I know, be gentle in such conditions. Unless its on purpose.
 

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I felt my rear wheels slide out once on a wet exit ramp. I had punched the gas a bit hard. Quick adjustment brought it all back in line. I try not do that on wet pavement.
 

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The other is that when driving in colder, damp and Wintery conditions you have to treat the throttle very gingerly, as the back end will let go easily when pushed. Just need to keep everything smooth.
I agree with Muppet's throttle technique. I live in snow country on a long driveway with a hill and two slight turns. With previous BMWs and MINIs the engine would go dead on the turns and I'd get stuck unless the stability control was turned off to favor traction control. I have a manual Cayman Base. The PSM kicks in during spirited turns on dry surfaces such as the track, but not so much in the winter slop. Defeating the PSM makes the car nearly impossible to drive in slippery winter turns. So far this winter, the PSM is better designed and more effective than I expected. Some drift, but not too much with gingerly control of the throttle and smooth cornering.
 
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