[Charles Brenner]

Dealer pushing 2 years of additional maintenance for my new 718 Cayman S for a small fortune $1400. I told them forget it. Others thoughts as this is my 1st Porsche

 

[Mrrippry]

Seems high. Also my first Porsche. We only need one maintenance a year unless you drive a lot. What’s the price of each maintenance visit (20k, 40k, etc)?

Rippey

 

[RussellHodgson]

I did not get the pre-purchased maintenance (if that is what you are referring to). I also wouldn't do anything additional over what is stated in the user manual.

 

[Porsche2018]

Just say no to pretty much everything the dealership wants to sell you and you will be correct 99% of the time.

 

[lanbow]

Def a no. You don't really need any big maintenance jobs during the first 2 years until you get to 20k miles mark. So why paying $1400 for just pretty much 2 - 3 times oil changes?

 

[Charles Brenner]

Thanks for advice

 

[Charles Brenner]

What expensive maintenance occurs at 20k?

 

[Auburn718]

Quick question - are you sure this was for years 1 & 2 (10K and 20K) or years 2 & 3 (20K & 30K)? as you said 2 additional years - the first year (10K) is included in the price.

 

[lanbow]

When you reach 2 yr / 20,000 miles Porsche adds the brake fluid service which I think alone is about $400 retail. Based on that I still don't think justify the $1,400 price tag for the 2 additional years after first year. If possible, ask your dealer for a service booklet for Cayman then you can sum up the cost of the recommended service then you will have a good pic based on your terms (miles / year). Good luck!

 

[Swdea]

Usually the price of these maintenance plans is negotiable.

 

[TEST DRyVer]

Just say no to pretty much everything the dealership wants to sell you and you will be correct 99% of the time.

So here's where I'll disagree with your statement: Clear bra for the front end of any low sports car is probably a good idea, I live in AZ, so I will of course opt to buy the window tint. As far as the maitinence plan, I'm getting it for my car, and my 718 will be a lease. There are some valuable items they sell in the finance office, but it is a lot to process, sift through, and understand which makes sense for you... I will not be purchasing the clear bra, but that's only because I'm leasing the car for 24 months. If I were buying the 718, I would clear bra the entire front end, all the way up to where the doors start. Again, of course this is my opinion and you have the rite to be totally wrong in your opinion

 

[Viffermike]

So here's where I'll disagree with your statement: Clear bra for the front end of any low sports car is probably a good idea, I live in AZ, so I will of course opt to buy the window tint. As far as the maitinence plan, I'm getting it for my car, and my 718 will be a lease. There are some valuable items they sell in the finance office, but it is a lot to process, sift through, and understand which makes sense for you... I will not be purchasing the clear bra, but that's only because I'm leasing the car for 24 months. If I were buying the 718, I would clear bra the entire front end, all the way up to where the doors start. Again, of course this is my opinion and you have the rite to be totally wrong in your opinion

But is it smart to have a dealership install that bra and tint? In most cases, IMHO, it is not.

What the dealership charges for, say, window tint is almost always going to be considerably more expensive than what a similar job would cost at a tint specialist -- at which you will have the added benefit of (if you so choose):

- Knowing what brand tint is going on your car
- Having a wider choice of shades/types
- Being able to research individual providers' customer feedback on that specific service
- Comparison shopping

This applies to virtually any service provided that is not make-specific. Dealership services such as this are almost always about convenience, and a customer pays extra for that.

I paid extra in the case of my 718's black powder-coated 19' Cayman S wheels, which I could have had done for half of what I paid the dealership somewhere else. But it was worth it for me to have it done on brand new wheels, with black colored-crest center caps sourced and included, no down time for the car, and the cost wrapped into financing.

I did not pay extra for tint (also mandatory, IMO, in Texas), which I had done elsewhere. I paid less for the best, most costly tint on the market (3M Crystalline) than the dealership would have charged for comparatively average Llumar middle-tier tint.

 

[Porsche2018]

So here's where I'll disagree with your statement: Clear bra for the front end of any low sports car is probably a good idea, I live in AZ, so I will of course opt to buy the window tint. As far as the maitinence plan, I'm getting it for my car, and my 718 will be a lease. There are some valuable items they sell in the finance office, but it is a lot to process, sift through, and understand which makes sense for you... I will not be purchasing the clear bra, but that's only because I'm leasing the car for 24 months. If I were buying the 718, I would clear bra the entire front end, all the way up to where the doors start. Again, of course this is my opinion and you have the rite to be totally wrong in your opinion

I had the PPF placed on the entire front end/backs of mirrors and the rocker panels by the dealership. I agree the PPF is worthwhile but I made the mistake of having the dealership do it, and the first time around the edges were not adherent, left parts of painted surfaces uncovered, and they trapped debris/dirt under the PPF in some highly visible areas. Park Place Porsche did re-do it and there were still edges that are not adherent and when they reapplied the PPF which took them 2 full weeks the driver side roof had 3 small chips in it. I believe it was Viffermike several months prior that recommended against using the dealership do the PPF, and he was 100% correct.
My feeling is I will never rely on a dealership for that kind of service again. Need to find a well qualified, hungry vendor that cares about their reputation. YMMV.
To be unambiguous, I am speaking as a consumer/Porsche owner and not as a "moderator".

 

[lajoiedp]

So here's where I'll disagree with your statement: Clear bra for the front end of any low sports car is probably a good idea, I live in AZ, so I will of course opt to buy the window tint. As far as the maitinence plan, I'm getting it for my car, and my 718 will be a lease. There are some valuable items they sell in the finance office, but it is a lot to process, sift through, and understand which makes sense for you... I will not be purchasing the clear bra, but that's only because I'm leasing the car for 24 months. If I were buying the 718, I would clear bra the entire front end, all the way up to where the doors start. Again, of course this is my opinion and you have the rite to be totally wrong in your opinion

This is a little off topic but I have been going back and forth on leasing (for 2 years) or buying my 718 (which just entered the body shop today - YES!!!). How many miles/yr. is your lease? What factored into your decision to lease?

 

[TEST DRyVer]

This is a little off topic but I have been going back and forth on leasing (for 2 years) or buying my 718 (which just entered the body shop today - YES!!!). How many miles/yr. is your lease? What factored into your decision to lease?

I would love to give you a poetic explanation of why I'm leasing instead of buying, but the truth is, I work for Porsche. The employee lease programs are excellent! It's completely different than what you're looking at. I can however tell you that if you lease a $70k 718 (for example) for $850 a month, for 24 months, at 12k miles, and put $4k down (I'm using standard leasing parameters here), you'll end up spending around $26k with doc fees, taxes, etc... when all is said and done. If you buy the $70k car, it will likely be worth over $50k in 2 years. Financially, you cant really go wrong either way. Obviously, if you're someone who likes to hold on to their cars for 4-5 years, leasing is not for you...
The benefits to a lease are:
1- You can still buy or trade in the car at any point and time, especially if the value of the car is in your favor.
2- Porsche will offer you some great incentives to get out of your lease and into another brand new Porsche of your choosing, 3-6 months before the lease is completed. So essentially, your 24 month lease, could actually be a 20 or 21 month lease, then you're in another new car.

There are several other benefits to leasing, for instance: if the 718 depreciates much more than expected, it doesn't hurt you one bit, etc...

 

[TEST DRyVer]

I agree the PPF is worthwhile but I made the mistake of having the dealership do it, and the first time around the edges were not adherent, left parts of painted surfaces uncovered, and they trapped debris/dirt under the PPF in some highly visible areas. Park Place Porsche did re-do it and there were still edges that are not adherent and when they reapplied the PPF which took them 2 full weeks the driver side roof had 3 small chips in it. I believe it was Viffermike several months prior that recommended against using the dealership do the PPF, and he was 100% correct.

You know, I've heard this more than a few times now, especially here. I guess I'm just spoiled in my place of business. I work for a private Porsche Dealership that's owned by a young husband and wife, and apparently it makes all the difference in the world. We have guys and gals that bought their Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc... at a Penske dealership (not too far from where I work), and they've opted to bring the car to us for their Clear Bra. The specialist that we have working there, strictly does clear bra, and nothing else (he does clear bra for the 3 other dealerships the same owners operate). He is anal retentive and his work is near flawless! He pops the headlights out while installing the clear bra to make sure you don't see the lines. He tucks in the clear bra around the panels and fenders so you can barely tell there's anything on there. Our tint guy is mediocre at best, but uses quality tint. The warranties we sell are excellent! Rarely any horror stories like the guy that was on here a couple of months ago who bought the wheel and tire package and it turned out to be a nightmare. I'm not trying to sell my place of work here, but the owners are simply ethical. The Service Advisors don't try and gouge you for every little thing that's not necessary. So, maybe you guys are all right! Maybe I'm totally wrong and you shouldn't trust your dealership with anything outside of car purchase or warranty service, but I am fortunate to say, I don't work at a place like that...

 

[Andros X Thomson]

I got the 4 year plan because it was cheaper than the pdk filter and flush plus other crap at 40k miles.

 

[Porsche2018]

You know, I've heard this more than a few times now, especially here. I guess I'm just spoiled in my place of business. I work for a private Porsche Dealership that's owned by a young husband and wife, and apparently it makes all the difference in the world. We have guys and gals that bought their Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc... at a Penske dealership (not too far from where I work), and they've opted to bring the car to us for their Clear Bra. The specialist that we have working there, strictly does clear bra, and nothing else (he does clear bra for the 3 other dealerships the same owners operate). He is anal retentive and his work is near flawless! He pops the headlights out while installing the clear bra to make sure you don't see the lines. He tucks in the clear bra around the panels and fenders so you can barely tell there's anything on there. Our tint guy is mediocre at best, but uses quality tint. The warranties we sell are excellent! Rarely any horror stories like the guy that was on here a couple of months ago who bought the wheel and tire package and it turned out to be a nightmare. I'm not trying to sell my place of work here, but the owners are simply ethical. The Service Advisors don't try and gouge you for every little thing that's not necessary. So, maybe you guys are all right! Maybe I'm totally wrong and you shouldn't trust your dealership with anything outside of car purchase or warranty service, but I am fortunate to say, I don't work at a place like that...

You know what they say DRyVer, fool me once shame on you but fool me twice.......well you know how that goes. I have no way of knowing if your dealership does above average quality work or not but with an outside vendor that has a large number of 5 star google reviews and a long track record inspires confidence. The vendor in question has been spoken of highly, and recommended by several friends as well. For the GT3, going with full coverage using Suntek Ultra and using the vendor I alluded to.

To be perfectly clear, I am speaking as a consumer/Porsche owner and not as a "moderator".

 

[jco718]

Maintenance Manual says:

10k engine oil and filter. once over inspection

20k engine oil and filter, brake flush, cabin air pre-filter and pollen filter. once over inspection.

My dealer wants $350 for 10k and $600 for 20k.

Had 10k done at independent Porsche place for $189. brake flush quoted for $95, Filters forgot to ask.

$1400 seems a lot.

 

[JakiChan]

My understanding is the 30k one is spark plugs, correct? And thus, big money. My question for the dealership will be, what do I have to pay for now and what can I pay for later? Like, for example, I know I can add the extended warranty any time before the factory warranty expires (so I'll know if I'm keeping the car), but I'm tempted to get the wheel warranty up front. I know generally extended warranties are bad deals, but I've "made money" on them with every german car I had. The last one I exercised I lost a radiator fan literally the week before it expired. And that repair was $$$$.