[kmacuk]

Hi All


Based in Scotland and have a Cayman MY19 on order, due to arrive Feb 2019. Has anyone taken delivery?



The reason I ask is that we were not going to add PSE when we started our buying process, but as we could only place our order after WLTP testing was complete we will get the new PSE + particulate filter. on our car We are therefore quite interested to get some feedback on its impact - performance and noise good or bad.

 

[Nosmo]

Hi All


Based in Scotland and have a Cayman MY19 on order, due to arrive Feb 2019. Has anyone taken delivery?



The reason I ask is that we were not going to add PSE when we started our buying process, but as we could only place our order after WLTP testing was complete we will get the new PSE + particulate filter. on our car We are therefore quite interested to get some feedback on its impact - performance and noise good or bad.

One of the best threads on the forum (IMHO) is VifferMike's how to disconnect the soundactuator thread here https://www.718forum.com/forum/how-...per-duper-soundaktor-disconnection-guide.html which are pages and pages of getting rid of the drone which comes with PSE. I smiled when I read your post. I have the new GPF filter in the CGTS and have disconnected the fuse so sadly can't really help. However, as it occurs to me a lot of the PSE induced noise is artificial and should logically still be there.

 

[RGM718]

I drove my 2019 with PSE Open and Sport Mode from day 1. I removed the fuse for the Soundaktor at about 300 miles if memory serves......and never looked back. I now hear the exhaust and the mechanical 'whirring' of the engine and transaxle which is what i am used to from my previous 987s and 981s. I do not want to say that women and children run and hide when they hear the car coming but it actually does turn heads a bit more than what I experienced in my previous Caymans including a PSE equipped CVayman R.

 

[kmacuk]

HI



I am sure I read a post were a UK member mentioned to the OPC he wanted the soundactuator to be deactivated with the OPC having no idea what he was referring to - he then confirmed it was not fitted and I think the end result was that this eas a US fitted option and not supplied to the UK. I was going to investigate this on one of our extended test drive vehicles until I read that post. I need to go and find this thread.

 

[kmacuk]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scubaregs View Post
Was in Porsche Glasgow yesterday getting the side vent griles fitted, asked about the soundaktor and puzzled the service manager. Came back to me later and said it had puzzled them all, not fitted on 718s in the UK.

I have a MY2018 UK Base Cayman, after reading this thread, I went for a drive, stopped, removed the 7.5amp fuse and drove some more. I only drove a mile or so but tried in normal and sport mode upto 6k revs but couldn’t tell any difference!

Soooo, has anyone else with a UK spec model tried removing the fuse? Could you tell any difference? (Reading this thread I expected to notice the difference straight away, so if it is a significant change to the sound, maybe Porsche Glasgow are correct and the Soundakator is not fitted to UK models!?)"

 

[Nosmo]

"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scubaregs View Post
Was in Porsche Glasgow yesterday getting the side vent griles fitted, asked about the soundaktor and puzzled the service manager. Came back to me later and said it had puzzled them all, not fitted on 718s in the UK.

I have a MY2018 UK Base Cayman, after reading this thread, I went for a drive, stopped, removed the 7.5amp fuse and drove some more. I only drove a mile or so but tried in normal and sport mode upto 6k revs but couldn’t tell any difference!

Soooo, has anyone else with a UK spec model tried removing the fuse? Could you tell any difference? (Reading this thread I expected to notice the difference straight away, so if it is a significant change to the sound, maybe Porsche Glasgow are correct and the Soundakator is not fitted to UK models!?)"

I did ask the OPC to remove the fuse. I send them the pictures from VifferMike's thread and they had no issues obliging pre-delivery. I did have a look myself and could have done it myself. It's as easy as it sounds. One tip though. Have something like a cloth on the floor below the fuse block just in case the slippery little bugger drops.

 

[RGM718]

I used a small tweezer to grip it and remove. It worked like a charm.

 

[CaymanMatt]

I used a small tweezer to grip it and remove. It worked like a charm.

There is also a fuse removing tool on the driver's football fuse box. It worked very nicely for my extraction.

 

[RGM718]

That works too.............

 

[kmacuk]

To be honest my post was to establish any negative or neutral impact of the PSE + DPF filter.



As to the soundakator I will check if our UK MY19 Cayman comes fitted with this device and go with fuse removal as indicated above.



Anyone with feedback on DPF in a new MY19 would be great.

 

[Basaltbox]

So have we decided the soundakator is not fitted to UK cars ?

 

[1812Music]

So have we decided the soundakator is not fitted to UK cars ?

Going to take an entire 30 seconds to find out when you get yours - take a look in the fuse box and if the fuse is there, you can assume it's ripe for the yanking.

 

[Schredder]

I did some looking on line and it seems to imply the particulate filter is going to be for European cars first starting in 2019 model year , then trickling down to the other markets including US. If you get one of the first 2019 cars in the UK you may not have it implemented yet. My 2019 CGTS delivered in Dec 2018 in the US doesn't have the particulate filter. Let us all know how it works out for you. GOOD LUCK

 

[porkey]

I did some looking on line and it seems to imply the particulate filter is going to be for European cars first starting in 2019 model year , then trickling down to the other markets including US. If you get one of the first 2019 cars in the UK you may not have it implemented yet. My 2019 CGTS delivered in Dec 2018 in the US doesn't have the particulate filter. Let us all know how it works out for you. GOOD LUCK

...what I heard was particulate filters for EU and China only...hoping this is the correct information and not yours! But it is what it is. However, it certainly is a rather expensive replacement part if ever forced upon unrestricted markets. I'm leaning towards (hopefully) that Porsche wouldn't force filters on the U.S. or other unrestricted markets. To me it doesn't make sense from a fiscal standpoint, nor does it make sense to force another price increase to offset ones production costs. End result of that last point, potential customer alienation. Oh, and please NO lectures on how particulate filters on relatively small batches of sports cars are going to save the environment! There are more than enough pollution spewing vehicles out there to fill that niche completely. Fun fact, at the 718 Cayman/Boxster GTS reveals at LA in 2017, Porsche stated that one fifth of ALL Porsches produced are sold in California alone! This doesn't include the sales in the remainder of the United States! Doesn't make sense to cut off the hand that feeds you...I guess time will tell...

 

[Viffermike]

... Fun fact....one fifth of ALL Porsches produced are sold in California alone (at least in MY 2017)! This doesn't include the sales in the remainder of the United States! Doesn't make sense to cut off the hand that feeds you...I guess time will tell...

LOL! Really! >

Though I'll add a counterpoint: California is, by far, the U.S. state that is the most restrictive when it comes to emissions, and has been since the 1970s. You've heard of CARB standards, as it relates to North American emissions? CARB stands for California Air Resources Board. Sixteen other U.S. states and Canada implement CARB standards, which are significantly more restrictive than U.S. federal standards, for emissions certification -- including other states in which Porsches sell well, such as Florida, New Jersey, and New York.

For that reason, I would bet that the WLTP standard's adoption is inevitable here (or, at the very least, a version of it) -- and because of that, both Porsche and VW AG would be smart to equip new-model North American-model cars with the WLTP-compliant hardware. I bet the new 992 will have it worldwide, for instance.

 

[Nosmo]

I did some looking on line and it seems to imply the particulate filter is going to be for European cars first starting in 2019 model year , then trickling down to the other markets including US. If you get one of the first 2019 cars in the UK you may not have it implemented yet. My 2019 CGTS delivered in Dec 2018 in the US doesn't have the particulate filter. Let us all know how it works out for you. GOOD LUCK

GPF was fitted to my Nov 18 build CGTS. No cars were build for the European and possibly Asian markets from May 18 through to the end of September to get the engines compliant with the new emissions rules. When the WLTP compliant engines reach the USA, I don't know my guess is that these cars are already being shipped. Firstly, it makes no sense for Porsche to have 2 different 2l and 2.5l engines. Also, as it occurs to me, WLTP stands for World Wide. I know the USA is special, but not that special (tongue firmly in cheek!!). I've also had to swallow a price increase when I paid for my car. Am I correct in my observation that Porsche increases prices once a year in January?

Anyway, we'll soon know for sure whether this GPF tec works better than DPF which has had no end of issues..

 

[Lordjohnny]

@Nosmo Do you think the GPF has had much impact on the sound of the car technically i know it will but i wonder if Porsche have updated the sports exhaust or tune to compensate ?

 

[Nosmo]

@Lordjohnny - sorry, I've got nothing to compare it to. I've also removed the sound actuator fuse. It sounds good to me.

 

[Basaltbox]

Going to take an entire 30 seconds to find out when you get yours - take a look in the fuse box and if the fuse is there, you can assume it's ripe for the yanking.

Agree with that but it’ll be a few weeks yet and I’m yet to hear of anyone from UK yanking the fuse and noticing any difference.

 

[Nosmo]

Going to take an entire 30 seconds to find out when you get yours - take a look in the fuse box and if the fuse is there, you can assume it's ripe for the yanking. /forum/images/718forum/smilies/tango_face_smile.png

Agree with that but it’ll be a few weeks yet and I’m yet to hear of anyone from UK yanking the fuse and noticing any difference.

Oh yes, big difference. No drone inside the cabin and you can hear the exhaust proper outside. Also, because the sound isn't "piped in", you will hear the engine much better.
Edited to say: it's a 10 second job, drive it, listen. Pull it, listen and decide. It's that easy.