[macrossVFX222]

I bought a 718 back in 2018 (this group gave me some great ideas) but decided to not get Navi. For the most part I find carplay to work but a part of me always wanted to get the PCM Navi back. There are limitations on retrofitting the PCM Nav (Porsche actually sells and its a dealer install option), but still curious how you all feel about it?

 

[GregW]

It's OK, but not perfect. If you have something else that works, I doubt if you are missing anything significant.

 

[jimmuller]

My dealer told me that Apple CarPlay was better because Porsche Navigation did not get real-0timje traffic info. On the other hand, he was also trying to make me like the car on the lot which I ultimately bought.

 

[DriveInHouston]

I have NAV and Apple CarPlay. I use Google Maps or Waze. The only time I HAD to use NAV because of its onboard maps was in the Adirondacks when we lost signal and my Offline Google Maps stopped about 20 mi. south of our hotel... Normally I run with recent Offline Maps and don’t need NAV.

 

[Naptown]

We have NAV and ACP in the Macan and never use the NAV.

 

[johan]

I have nav and Sc so i can use all the options with sc
And i use navi more then google maps and waze cause navi works as a charm in Sweden

 

[DriveInHouston]

A word of caution:

NAV works as it does because it stores the maps onboard.

It is rumored to be updated, so Porsche wants you to buy the annual subscription to the NAV and Infotainment package. In the year I was subscribed, there was no update.

There was probably no update in the last 5 years, if not more! My own street in Houston is shown to go through the Houston Community College campus. That segment was pedestrianized and secured with massive barriers at least 5 if not 6 years ago. NAV INSISTS that I barge through the barriers and wants me to do U-Turns to do this.

If it screws up right in front of my house, how can I trust NAV to know that a one-way street has been reversed, in an unknown city, in the middle of the night? I have no confidence in NAV.

I prefer to use Google Maps which are mostly up to the minute, I like the traffic re-routing feature as well. Ocassionally I will use Apple Maps for the Siri Voice activation, if I am driving and want to get new directions to a different place.

Google Maps requires a few touches with Voice Activation, while NAV is guaranteed to kill you if you are trying to find a place while driving and get directions to it. No voice. You can get a few voice commands in with Porsche Connect (not to be confused with Porsche Car Connect by Vodafone), but still it is miles away from true Voice Commands Navigation.

 

[garethmat]

This was the one extra that I was very unsure about not speccing, coming from a BMW with a great idrive navigation integration, but something had to give. Since getting the Cayman I’ve been using the TomTom app via Apple carplay whenever I need nav, and to be honest I don’t feel like I’m missing anything at all... just as good as the BMW system and therefore probably at least as good as the Porsche Nav, so now I’m glad I didn’t invest the hefty price tag they charge for it...

 

[Viffermike]

OP: Skip it. As a dealer add-on, the only advantage it has over telemetric-based systems such as CarPlay is that it will work in areas without cell service since it relies on GPS instead of cells. Unless you take trips regularly to areas without cell service, it's not worth it -- you're better off buying a standalone GPS unit such as a Garmin nuvi for those trips. (That's exactly what I've done.)

 

[DriveInHouston]

OP: Skip it. As a dealer add-on, the only advantage it has over telemetric-based systems such as CarPlay is that it will work in areas without cell service since it relies on GPS instead of cells. Unless you take trips regularly to areas without cell service, it's not worth it -- you're better off buying a standalone GPS unit such as a Garmin nuvi for those trips. (That's exactly what I've done.)

You don't even need to do this (add standalone GPS). You can download offline maps for Google Maps and it will run off them if it loses signal. I had NYC to Houston mapped in 6 or 7 downloaded maps...

 

[Westcoaster]

I bought a 718 back in 2018 (this group gave me some great ideas) but decided to not get Navi. For the most part I find carplay to work but a part of me always wanted to get the PCM Navi back. There are limitations on retrofitting the PCM Nav (Porsche actually sells and its a dealer install option), but still curious how you all feel about it?

I am going through the debate of spec'ing this on my next car, it is very expensive for what you get IMHO, if I bought a car that didn't have it I doubt that I would add it.


I would be curious what they charge for this 'dealer installed option' ?

 

[Viffermike]

You don't even need to do this (add standalone GPS). You can download offline maps for Google Maps and it will run off them if it loses signal. I had NYC to Houston mapped in 6 or 7 downloaded maps...

Yeah ... but if you break your phone, you're screwed.

(And that darn near happened to me somewhat near the Adirondacks -- in Ithaca, N.Y. I dropped my phone on the rocks at the base of Ithaca Falls. That aramid fiber case I mentioned in another thread saved it.)

I do triple redundancy on trips: phone / GPS nav (OEM or portable) / old-fashioned printed maps. Then again, my trips aren't like most others' ... ;P

 

[Westcoaster]

Yeah ... but if you break your phone, you're screwed.

(And that darn near happened to me somewhat near the Adirondacks -- in Ithaca, N.Y. I dropped my phone on the rocks at the base of Ithaca Falls. That aramid fiber case I mentioned in another thread saved it.)

I do triple redundancy on trips: phone / GPS nav (OEM or portable) / old-fashioned printed maps. Then again, my trips aren't like most others' ... ;P

A name or a link for this case?

 

[Viffermike]

A name or a link for this case?

This is the case I use. It's Asian in origin, but it's hands-down the highest-quality phone case I've ever used. I'd assume it's made for phones other than Apple's, but I'm not sure.

 

[DriveInHouston]

Yeah ... but if you break your phone, you're screwed.

(And that darn near happened to me somewhat near the Adirondacks -- in Ithaca, N.Y. I dropped my phone on the rocks at the base of Ithaca Falls. That aramid fiber case I mentioned in another thread saved it.)

I do triple redundancy on trips: phone / GPS nav (OEM or portable) / old-fashioned printed maps. Then again, my trips aren't like most others' ... ;P

I am married. 2 mobile phones, one tablet for certain, two if I pack mine. Maps, as in Apple Maps

 

[JakiChan]

I have Nav. I use it - rarely. I use it on longer trips where I'm a bit sketchy about coverage. It's nice to know I have something on board. It does get OTA updates (I've updated the maps a few times), and it can show live traffic, but it's not Waze.

Usually, Waze is my go-to. Even if I know where I'm going - it has the best traffic info and cop info.

 

[Guaji]

I like the interface and presentation of the Nav system. Somethings that I do not like are that it seems preset to put me in the HOV / Express lanes when I cannot use the HOV lanes. Also entering an address takes more time than Google, Waze or Apple. I like to use Waze and the Porsche system at the same time to compare routes. I mostly use Waze, and I may have Apple Car Play installed without the Voice control stalk.

Any idea how I can go into the settings so the Nav system doesn’t send me into the HOV lanes always?

 

[Westcoaster]

This is the case I use. It's Asian in origin, but it's hands-down the highest-quality phone case I've ever used. I'd assume it's made for phones other than Apple's, but I'm not sure.

Thanks I found it for my Sammy S9+ on Amazon...

 

[macrossVFX222]

I am going through the debate of spec'ing this on my next car, it is very expensive for what you get IMHO, if I bought a car that didn't have it I doubt that I would add it.


I would be curious what they charge for this 'dealer installed option' ?

Cheapest is 2K for the Navi and roughly 1K for install.... Now you see why I am asking you fine folks here for your opinions

 

[macrossVFX222]

Thank you so much everyone. I guess I will continue to use my carplay navigation for now. Doesn't seems like its worth a 3K+ investment to retrofit it, even if it is a dealer option and not after market.