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Hi all,
I have been looking for a weekend coupe/convertible and came across this CPO Boxster S last week and took a test drive. It is a 2017 model sold in Sep 2016 which makes the car nearly 4 years old. The options list is decent and it has 16k miles on it. The car seem well maintained but hadn't been inspected when i drove it. I like the color and the car was well maintained but i think the price is a bit too high for a car nearly 4 yrs old. Their asking is 61k and msrp was 92k. I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on what would be a good price for it.

Prod Month:​
2016-07-01​
VIN:​
Price:​
$92,075.00​
Exterior:​
Miami Blue​
Interior:​
Leather Interior in Black/Chalk​
BASE​
Boxster S​
250​
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)​
439​
20" 911 Turbo Design Wheels​
446​
Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest​
489​
Heated Multifunction Steering Wheel​
541​
Seat ventilation​
581​
Luggage net in passenger footwell​
718​
Model Designation "718"​
7UG​
Navigation Module for Porsche Communication Management (PCM)​
970​
Two-tone leather interior​
9VL​
Bose® Surround Sound System​
BW​
Leather Interior in Black/Chalk​
J5​
Miami Blue​
P06​
Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package​
P9B​
Premium Package (Sport Seats, 14-way)​
XLX​
Sport Exhaust System including Sport Tailpipes in Black​
 

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This build looks to me like it would have broad appeal to those looking for a daily driver (ie, most of us!) Not counting for local market conditions, I would say about 50K, +/- feels right. It's also my opinion that it's worth paying a little bit more to secure a deal if you find the exact, or very close to the exact car you've been looking for. Good luck!
 

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I bought a 10 month old Cayman S CPO with similar, if not identical spec, ($89k sticker) including CarPlay for $63k. It had 11k mi. on the clock. Low to mid fifties would be my guess...
 

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Just ten months old? You got one great deal there bro. This one is 45 months old.
I understand looking at the in-service date for warranty remaining, but it's three years old according to the model date. Not four years old. It's also CPOd so it will have a full warranty when purchased. I'm surprised the price isn't a few thousand higher. I doubt they let it go for less than 59k. Is this from a dealer or private seller?
 

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I understand looking at the in-service date for warranty remaining, but it's three years old according to the model date. Not four years old. It's also CPOd so it will have a full warranty when purchased. I'm surprised the price isn't a few thousand higher. I doubt they let it go for less than 59k. Is this from a dealer or private seller?
Its from a dealer.
 

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Not sure how you made out but I have noticed both in the 718 and 911 Market there is very little incentive by the dealers to lower prices especially with a CPO. Also Covid seems to be having little to no effect.

I agree that this is not a 4 year old car it is a 3 year old car with almost no miles and so a 35% decrease in 3 years seems about right. The fact that 2021s are starting to come out will not make the car a year older automatically and had their been 2020's you would have seen people buying 2020's even a month before the 2021's come out.

Miami blue is beautiful but I heard, not sure how true it is, that Miami blues are not wearing well from a color perspective and so the color was discontinued. Not saying Miami blues are bad but do take a good look for uneven wear or color changes

Agree with starting off low but if you like the car I would not be afraid to go all the way to 60K. It is a a beautiful car and very nicely Spec'd
 

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I let that one go and it sold soon. I did feel it was a bit over priced and the dealer never responded to my offer. However, I have my eyes on another Boxster but it's a 981 and a very clean car. Stuck in negotiations the same way. Any idea where i can get tips on negotiating effectively and getting them down to a fair price?
 

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I let that one go and it sold soon. I did feel it was a bit over priced and the dealer never responded to my offer. However, I have my eyes on another Boxster but it's a 981 and a very clean car. Stuck in negotiations the same way. Any idea where i can get tips on negotiating effectively and getting them down to a fair price?
So you get to do your search all over again, and again if someone buys this one out from under you, etc... How much are you bickering over? I say if you want the car, buy the **** car. Is $2K or whatever really worth the time and the risk of losing the car - if it's the car for you? If it's not the car for you, don't waste time on it.
This is a Porsche, not a widget from x.
 

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So you get to do your search all over again, and again if someone buys this one out from under you, etc... How much are you bickering over? I say if you want the car, buy the **** car. Is $2K or whatever really worth the time and the risk of losing the car - if it's the car for you? If it's not the car for you, don't waste time on it.
This is a Porsche, not a widget from x.
hahaha true that. However this 981 gts has been on the lot 9 months and the Miami blue 718 had just been traded in when i put the offer for it. It is a super clean car (98k mrsp asking 68k) but when i looked at sold listings on BAT etc. similar priced cars sell for 60-62k. I offered 64k to them and they came down by 600$! So it's an odd situation, do you know whats a good way to start negotiations back again? The car is still available.
 

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hahaha true that. However this 981 gts has been on the lot 9 months and the Miami blue 718 had just been traded in when i put the offer for it. It is a super clean car (98k mrsp asking 68k) but when i looked at sold listings on BAT etc. similar priced cars sell for 60-62k. I offered 64k to them and they came down by 600$! So it's an odd situation, do you know whats a good way to start negotiations back again? The car is still available.
It appears the 981 GTS model, in particular, is holding value VERY well. It feels to me that it might be even harder to negotiate on the 981 GTS versus the 718. Have you driven both? As I’m sure you already know, they deliver power very differently (and sound differently too!). Good luck!
 

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It appears the 981 GTS model, in particular, is holding value VERY well. It feels to me that it might be even harder to negotiate on the 981 GTS versus the 718. Have you driven both? As I’m sure you already know, they deliver power very differently (and sound differently too!). Good luck!
I drove several 718s and this 981 GTS. And would say that I prefer the driving characteristics of the 718 by a small margin (they are very similar) but the sound of the 981 makes up for the difference, for me at least. I looked up prices and even posted in another forum and it seems these don't sell for much more than 60k right now. Im not sure how to go about this, my online research seems to suggest these are overpriced but in reality my experience is very different when I try to negotiate. And I am always polite and gentle in how I interact with sales people so that's not a factor either.

Also this dealer asked me to put in an offer and negotiate before trying the car, he said they prefer to do that and then have customers just pick the car up! However I insisted on a test drive first, and when I put forth an offer after my visit they did this. So I'm really not sure if I'm doing something wrong or it's just the kind of dealer Ive run into.
 

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I drove several 718s and this 981 GTS. And would say that I prefer the driving characteristics of the 718 by a small margin (they are very similar) but the sound of the 981 makes up for the difference, for me at least. I looked up prices and even posted in another forum and it seems these don't sell for much more than 60k right now. Im not sure how to go about this, my online research seems to suggest these are overpriced but in reality my experience is very different when I try to negotiate. And I am always polite and gentle in how I interact with sales people so that's not a factor either.
I’m seeing $65k+ across CarGurus on the 981 GTS. I find I’m often too polite when negotiating.
 
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