[Naptown]

If they go back to 6 cyl, shouldn’t they assign some number besides 718? May want to reserve that URL

 

[JakiChan]

Well, the car didn't have a number before, so maybe it just goes back to "Boxter/Cayman"

 

[Viffermike]

Why would Porsche go back to a 6?
In any case, think about this. The GT4 and Spyder are still designated as 718s despite the NA flat-6 each will have.
My guess is that 718 will continue to be used.

 

[Acky]

It's pretty sure that next year (with the facelift) the S and later the GTS will get a flat 6 (NA).
Several dealers in germany already have that info and gave it to customers.
Also Andreas Preuninger hinted that more or less obvious in one of this interviews about the new GT4.

This engine ist not only for the Spyder/GT4 you will see it also in other models of the 718 range.

There it will have less power. But there will be also a version with more power than in the GT4!

The 2L F4 will stay in the base model.

They get to much complains all over the world about that 2.5L engine. Objectivliy a good engine, but ist lucks the emotions Porsche customers want you get, especially for a price near 100k for an optioned GTS.

I expect the internal number will stay at 982.
No new names like 718/6.
They will stay with S / GTS.

 

[Viffermike]

It's pretty sure that next year (with the facelift) the S and later the GTS will get a flat 6 (NA).
Several dealers in germany already have that info and gave it to customers.
Also Andreas Preuninger hinted that more or less obvious in one of this interviews about the new GT4.

This engine ist not only for the Spyder/GT4 you will see it also in other models of the 718 range.

There it will have less power. But there will be also a version with more power than in the GT4!

The 2L F4 will stay in the base model.

They get to much complains all over the world about that 2.5L engine. Objectivliy a good engine, but ist lucks the emotions Porsche customers want you get, especially for a price near 100k for an optioned GTS.

I expect the internal number will stay at 982.
No new names like 718/6.
They will stay with S / GTS.

I will believe it when I see it in the flesh. Every corporate indication is that the flat-4s will continue to be used until the next-gen Boxster/Cayman arrives in 2-3 years -- if it even ever arrives at all, since there's still doubt about that. A 'facelift' almost never comes with new powerplants no matter the make, since, well, that implies more than a 'facelift'.

The entire reason the GT4 and Spyder have NA flat-6 engines is because they both are, fundamentally, track-oriented vehicles that benefit from high-revving powerplants. The 718 base/S/GTS aren't meant primarily as track vehicles.

And I believe you should read some recent reviews of the S/GTS. Virtually no one professional complains about the engine's sound anymore. Why? Because the cars are so good in every other way, there's no point in it except to niggle. For a public road-going sports car, the base/S/GTS would be hurt by an NA flat-6, not helped. The only conceivable way this could happen is if the new 911 were almost exclusively a hybridized/EV vehicle. Otherwise, there's too much market crossover for Porsche's internal tastes.

I could give several other reasons why such a switch wouldn't make sense for the 718. I really don't care what dealers in Germany or Mr. Preuninger have said. Porsche isn't stupid. And sound isn't everything.

 

[crk]

Porsche should bring back the 912 now that they make a 4 cylinder.

 

[Graustark]

I'm getting this base 718 for fun weekend / minimal traffic driving / going out for dinner, and maybe some autocross once in a blue moon. I would rather have strong torque at 1950 RPM for those normal road driving purposes, than to have to rev it high past 4000 RPM to get strong torque.

 

[Naptown]

I'm getting this base 718 for fun weekend / minimal traffic driving / going out for dinner, and maybe some autocross once in a blue moon. I would rather have strong torque at 1950 RPM for those normal road driving purposes, than to have to rev it high past 4000 RPM to get strong torque.

That's how I use mine. Spent the weekend with a lot of other Porsches including some high end 911 models. I'm new to this and don't really pay much attention to the various 911 sub-model numbers. All nice looking cars but for me the 718 Cayman is the sweet spot. Had no trouble keeping up on twisty roads.

 

[Baka1969]

I hate to be persnickety, but, the 991.2 went from NA to turbocharged engines.

 

[Wine.O]

Actual next gen won't be a flat 6, it'll be electric.

 

[Yuro]

I will believe it when I see it in the flesh. Every corporate indication is that the flat-4s will continue to be used until the next-gen Boxster/Cayman arrives in 2-3 years -- if it even ever arrives at all, since there's still doubt about that. A 'facelift' almost never comes with new powerplants no matter the make, since, well, that implies more than a 'facelift'.

The entire reason the GT4 and Spyder have NA flat-6 engines is because they both are, fundamentally, track-oriented vehicles that benefit from high-revving powerplants. The 718 base/S/GTS aren't meant primarily as track vehicles.

And I believe you should read some recent reviews of the S/GTS. Virtually no one professional complains about the engine's sound anymore. Why? Because the cars are so good in every other way, there's no point in it except to niggle. For a public road-going sports car, the base/S/GTS would be hurt by an NA flat-6, not helped. The only conceivable way this could happen is if the new 911 were almost exclusively a hybridized/EV vehicle. Otherwise, there's too much market crossover for Porsche's internal tastes.

I could give several other reasons why such a switch wouldn't make sense for the 718. I really don't care what dealers in Germany or Mr. Preuninger have said. Porsche isn't stupid. And sound isn't everything.

While I agree that the 718 GTS is an amazing car...and better than street 911s in every way that counts for me, I think Porsche made a mistake going to 4 cylinders....but then they doubled down with that silly Soundaktor. Pull the fuse and this car can be truly enjoyed...and you don't have to apologize to passengers about the noise.

I love my 718 GTS in a way I never could love my newer Carrera T.

Of course, they'll get better and better. How else will they keep draining our wallets?

Anyway, happy with mine for the next 10 years or so, I think.

 

[Gtipirelli]

There is no way they will throw a load of flat 6 NA engines in to the cayman/Boxster range when the darling 911 is turbo charged. There will be engine changes for the 911 before the cayman in my view IF Porsche go that direction

 

[Naptown]

I wonder if the 911 platform is basically maxed out at this point.

 

[Anthonyf202!]

Actual next gen won't be a flat 6, it'll be electric.

Wine.O and Viffermike comments are absolutely correct. The turbo 4 stays, and the electric hybrid will be introduced in the next generation.

 

[Fume]

My prediction is that there will be a new Cayman/Boxster in the near future that's positioned in between GTS and the GT4 which will be some sort of Touring version of the current GT4 and will have the flat 6 (i.e. the test cars that's been spotted with the 6 cylinder and without the wing). That way we basically have a cayman with a starting price spaced approximately $10k apart. $60k = Base, $70k = S, $80k = GTS, $90k = Touring, $100k = GT4.

There was some interview I remember seeing where the person mentioned that the current 718 generation will continue longer than previous generations. So I agree that the next actual update to this platform will be a hybrid/electric version as already mentioned and there might not be another generation of cayman/boxster until that happens.

 

[Schredder]

The base 718 is exactly the 911 3.0 liter engine minus 2 cylinders. The 718 s gts is the 3.8 turbo motor minus 2 cylinders . It even uses the VGT turbo's. The GT4 is from the 4.0 liter in the GT3. Porsche did this for a reason for production efficiency . I would love it if they stopped making the 4 cylinder engines . I would have a rarer car. These are what there is . The future 911 will be hybrid. I went to Porsche's in the park a few weeks ago. and quite a few people wanted to hear my CGTS. not one person said they hated the sound. I have given a bunch of people rides who have never been in a Porsche. Not one complaint. They all loved it. I even let a close friend drive it. I didn't think he wanted to let me drive .I love my car the way it is. faster than previous cayman's . I'll keep it. And if you think progress moves backwards and flat sixes are coming back for all cayman and boxters, by all means wait. but I wouldn't hold my breath

 

[antennahead]

I went to Porsche's in the park a few weeks ago. and quite a few people wanted to hear my CGTS. not one person said they hated the sound.

I've had my car a little over 6 weeks now, same reaction to your Porsche's in the park. Everyone that hears it for the first time goes "wow", that sounds great.

 

[Nosmo]

The GTS F4 is effortlessly quick. I had a little play with a 981 CS and every time he floored the throttle when the traffic moved over, I reeled him in whilst still accelerating. The issue I had more than anything is being held back by the fear of losing my licence....

 

[RussellHodgson]

The GTS F4 is effortlessly quick. I had a little play with a 981 CS and every time he floored the throttle when the traffic moved over, I reeled him in whilst still accelerating. The issue I had more than anything is being held back by the fear of losing my licence....

DE days are the cure for that. No fear of losing your license.