[Viffermike]

There's a thread on another forum from someone in the U.S. who had a 2018 Boxster S on order. He said his allocation was killed by Porsche a couple of days ago because it is re-assigning all remaining 2018 Boxster S build allocations to the EU market -- meaning no more will be built for the NA market until the 2019 model year.

Those of you with 718 S models on order -- both Boxster and Cayman -- should double check with your dealer ASAP about your order. If it hasn't been built yet, those waiting for Boxsters won't get one until September at the earliest (and it'll be a 2019 model) ... or ...

... the dealer might discount a GTS order as a goodwill gesture, which is what the poster said his dealer allowed him to do. He claims to have received 9 percent off MSRP for a GTS, so that the difference in price was only about $2K.

 

[W0666007]

There's a thread on another forum from someone in the U.S. who had a 2018 Boxster S on order. He said his allocation was killed by Porsche a couple of days ago because it is re-assigning all remaining 2018 Boxster S build allocations to the EU market.

Well that would be a kick in the gut.

 

[4802]

There's a thread on another forum from someone in the U.S. who had a 2018 Boxster S on order. He said his allocation was killed by Porsche a couple of days ago because it is re-assigning all remaining 2018 Boxster S build allocations to the EU market -- meaning no more will be built for the NA market until the 2019 model year.

I'd hope that isn't the case, but I was previously made aware of similar actions by Porsche in the fairly recent past. Apparently they did pretty much the same thing with the Macan S (petrol) in the U.K after introduction of the GTS. All other variants were still available including the S diesel, but the S petrol became pretty much unobtainable for quite some time. That's what the dealer told me in any case & I can only assume that if that information was correct & unless there was some other underlying & undisclosed reason, then it's because Porsche chose to divert some production facilities to the newer model.

 

[Peter]

We could do with a cutback in supply here in the UK. There's a glut of used 718's and 718S's on he market (unlike new generation 911's, which are rare) so depreciation is likely quite bad compared to other models. I suspect there are issues with popularity of the new 4-clyinder engines. I must admit, although I'm warming to mine, I've not been thrilled compared to my previous 981 and 987. Not just the soundtrack but the vibration in high gear at low revs (need to keep it in Sport mode) and the fact that claimed economy and power over previous generation is bullshit. It's just to get the official CO2 figures down in non-real world driving conditions. It does look a lot nicer than previous, however, and the PCM is much better.

 

[4802]

We could do with a cutback in supply here in the UK. There's a glut of used 718's and 718S's on he market (unlike new generation 911's, which are rare) so depreciation is likely quite bad compared to other models. I suspect there are issues with popularity of the new 4-clyinder engines. I must admit, although I'm warming to mine, I've not been thrilled compared to my previous 981 and 987. Not just the soundtrack but the vibration in high gear at low revs (need to keep it in Sport mode) and the fact that claimed economy and power over previous generation is bullshit. It's just to get the official CO2 figures down in non-real world driving conditions. It does look a lot nicer than previous, however, and the PCM is much better.

The economy claims are pretty much nonsense, but who cares? I certainly don't, but on a long run I think they're more than reasonable. As for power, I'm sorry but I entirely disagree. The 718 has a huge performance advantage over the previous 981, not just with increased power but also hugely increased torque that's delivered from far lower down the rev range. Where I live, with it's extremely twisting roads & very short straights there's absolutely no comparison between the real world performance of the 981 vs the 982/718. A 718 would absolutely annihilate it's predecessor & even more so the 987 that preceded that. If you believe otherwise then you're delusional as there are enough road, track & dyno tests to confirm it's anything but bullshit & even the most critical reviewers of the 718 have been unable to deny the huge performance increases. Accept it or don't accept it but it's still a fact!

 

[Peter]

Far be it for me to denigrate the car mate, it's sitting on my drive and I need it to hold it's value. I'll yield to you on the power but on my style of driving, fairly conservative, I don't notice much difference really. I do miss the old soundtrack though but I'm getting used to it. On economy though, I do feel they've been disingenuous, not that it matters that much to me on 5000 leisure only miles a year. It's noticeably thirstier than the 981S (but much better than the 987 base) around town and on the motorway if you gun it. It's done less than 4000 miles so maybe will improve.

 

[4802]

Far be it for me to denigrate the car mate, it's sitting on my drive and I need it to hold it's value. I'll yield to you on the power but on my style of driving, fairly conservative, I don't notice much difference really. I do miss the old soundtrack though but I'm getting used to it. On economy though, I do feel they've been disingenuous, not that it matters that much to me on 5000 leisure only miles a year. It's noticeably thirstier than the 981S (but much better than the 987 base) around town and on the motorway if you gun it. It's done less than 4000 miles so maybe will improve.

On a long run if I'm in normal & not too heavy on the gas I can see mid 30's & even hit the indicated high of 36 recently (taken with a pinch of salt) which I think is pretty good & around the same as the highest I ever achieved in my previous car. However this has done far less mileage & may improve further. Around here where it spends 99% of the time in sport I get middling 20's, but that again is acceptable given the type of roads & I don't exactly dawdle. With regards to leaving the car in sport, personally I've pretty much always done that for the bulk of local driving with my 987, 981 & 982/718. This car can easily make rapid progress around here even when left in normal though, but I still prefer the revs to be held higher. If I'm in a particularly spirited mood I tend to completely override the auto change & just use paddles anyway, but even then it's either in sport or occasionally sport +. (If you feel further need to expand the conversation regarding economy & performance then it might be more appropriate to move to a thread on that subject. We appear to have rather hi-jacked this one, even if only unintentionally).

 

[XK4]

Emailed my dealer. He confirmed hearing of allocations being diverted from US to Europe, but had no real details. He did have a build date for my car so hopefully that's good news. :|

 

[4802]

Emailed my dealer. He confirmed hearing of allocations being diverted from US to Europe, but had no real details. He did have a build date for my car so hopefully that's good news. :|

Hopefully you'll be O.K. fingers crossed for you.

 

[greywing]

My dealer confirmed that Porsche was diverting US builds to the EU because of pending changes to the (EU) emission requirements coming down the pike. Apparently US builds are similar (emission-wise) so that converting to current EU requirements makes this an attractive choice enabling shipping as many within the EU as possible before the new changes have to be implemented. Not nice!

 

[JakiChan]

JFC. After all this working deciding what I want and now I won't be able to get it for over a year? Well, this was all for nothing I guess. I'm gonna be driving my current car for at least another year, which means off to the stereo shop it goes...

Edit: I mean "a few years". If I drop a $7k stereo into my R32 I'm gonna keep it for 3 or 4 more years at least. And who knows what the car options then will be like.

 

[GregW]

JFC. After all this working deciding what I want and now I won't be able to get it for over a year? Well, this was all for nothing I guess. I'm gonna be driving my current car for at least another year, which means off to the stereo shop it goes...

Edit: I mean "a few years". If I drop a $7k stereo into my R32 I'm gonna keep it for 3 or 4 more years at least. And who knows what the car options then will be like.

If the stories about how many cars remain unsold in the USA are factual then you should be able to find a good match to your choices somewhere, and likely at a discount!

In 3 or 4 years the optiono will likely be a hybrid or electric only. If that's OK with you, keep the R32, if it's not OK--buy now or wait until Sept.

 

[JakiChan]

If the stories about how many cars remain unsold in the USA then you should be able to find a good match to your choices somewhere, and likely at a discount!

In 3 or 4 years it will likely be a hybrid or electric only. If that's OK with you, keep the R32, if it's not OK--buy now or wait until Sept.

I’ve looked with every tool they have. Nothing like what I want is available.

Lava Orange
Full leather, PASM, etc.

I’m not gonna but a $95k car and not get what I want. It’s be better to not buy one st all then compromise. If you really think that in a few years all P cars will be electric then they might as well stop selling them now. Kill the brand.

 

[ZuffenHouseRules]

JFC. After all this working deciding what I want and now I won't be able to get it for over a year? Well, this was all for nothing I guess. I'm gonna be driving my current car for at least another year, which means off to the stereo shop it goes....

Jackie did you actually try ordering an S and get turned down? Also if you're optioning up to $95k, that must include a lot of the stuff that comes with GTS.....

 

[lajoiedp]

Is this supposed diversion of builds only for S models, and if so, why? That would be good news for me, as I ordered a base model, but why would this only affect S models?

 

[ZuffenHouseRules]

Is this supposed diversion of builds only for S models, and if so, why? That would be good news for me, as I ordered a base model, but why would this only affect S models?

Diversion explained in post #10 although I don't fully understand. I only asked about S as that was the title of thread, but another post describes similar situation at one point with Macan S. Could it be S models are diversion candidates once GTS model becomes available....so the potential vacuum is at least partly filled by base/GTS models above and below?

I'm sorry for anyone impacted. I do love my stripped-S at cost of modestly-optioned base -- that would be a hole not plugged by a base-and-GTS-only model line, leaving no way to get the 2.5/VTG (and big red brake calipers) for under $70k.

 

[lajoiedp]

Diversion explained in post #10 although I don't fully understand.

Yes, but why only the S models? I've got an email into my dealership to see what I can find out.

 

[trusted]

I don't know but this sounds fishy to me. Couldn't this just be a case of a or some dealerships selling allocations for '18 deliveries in '17 that they never had in the first place and were just hoping to get? It was well known by the end of last year by my dealership that there would be fewer sports car allocations coming to the US in '18. Porsche sports car assembly is running with around 250 cars/day at full capacity. They control supply/demand by shifting annual allocations around the globe. This is nothing new.

 

[lajoiedp]

I don't know but this sounds fishy to me. Couldn't this just be a case of a or some dealerships selling allocations for '18 deliveries in '17 that they never had in the first place and were just hoping to get? It was well known by the end of last year by my dealership that there would be fewer sports car allocations coming to the US in '18. Porsche sports car assembly is running with around 250 cars/day at full capacity. They control supply/demand by shifting annual allocations around the globe. This is nothing new.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Waiting to hear what my dealer has to say.

 

[JakiChan]

Jackie did you actually try ordering an S and get turned down? Also if you're optioning up to $95k, that must include a lot of the stuff that comes with GTS.....

My dealer says they haven't heard anything, but they also said they didn't have an allocation for me. They're supposed to get theirs this week. So we'll see.

And I have a lot of stuff NOT in a GTS. Full leather, etc. A GTS would be a big bump up, have things I don't really want (20" wheels), and some stuff I kinda want (PSE, PTV) but don't wanna pay for.