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What opinions are there on our forum regarding paying over MSRP for a Porsche? I was adamant against paying over MSRP but I feel myself reconsidering that stance........is paying 25K over MSRP excessive. Thoughts?
2018 GT3/MSRP 173,600 + 25K........pretty much the best deal I can find.I can only imagine paying over MSRP for a very limited production car. Which Porsche are you referring to?
As to point 3 & 4.....the car purchase will not have any impact on my long term financial health and as to point 4 my wife wants me to buy it........so does that mean GT3 equals “Happy wife, happy life”.1) My thinking would be that if I were going to keep the car for a reasonably long time (for me, 5 years), I'd just think of it as paying an extra $10ish/day for the thrill ride of a lifetime.
2) Here's another way to think about it - since GT3's are so rare, maybe you'll make some of that $25K back in the future when you get rid of it, when compared to the depreciation on a more pedestrian 911 (disclaimer - I have no idea of pricing in the used GT3 market).
3) Whenever I'm going to do something stupid financially (i.e., buying a Porsche), I ask myself whether it will affect my long term financial health. I'd conclude that if I have the money, the burning desire for a GT3, and it won't harm me or my family financially - I'd go for it.
4) I asked my wife the question you posed. Her answer: "Are you f'ing nuts".
BTW, asking Porsche guys if you should blow extra bucks on a legendary Porsche, see point 3.
Also, BTW, "happy wife, happy life", see point 4
Given the financial impact is negligible, I agree - you only live once - go for it and don't look back. You already know this, but you have a great, understanding wife!...as to point 4 my wife wants me to buy it........so does that mean GT3 equals “Happy wife, happy life”.
The issue I still wrestle with is 25K is allot to charge over MSRP but then again you only live once. I guess I have to get over the feeling of being kinda ripped off..........
That gets to the heart/intent of the original post. In my mind, it is morally questionable for some Porsche dealerships to behave in this way. At what point do we bear some of the responsibility for the problem if we encourage/buy from said dealerships? Clearly, buying way over MSRP does not foster good feelings about the dealership or the Porsche Brand in the long run.......ultimately detracts/diminishes the Brand image......EDIT: Here is the other question:
What do you think about dealers that charge over MSRP for new cars?
Well, I think they are weasels. It bothers me and I wouldn't buy a car from them. That's an easy one for me, too. However, I will concede there are counter arguments to this.
Well I've been a little shy on answering this as it isn't my money. However my opinion for what it's worth is that if 25k over the original manufacturers list price is the best price available, then to all intents & purposes that unfortunately is the new price. The manufacturers recommended price became an irrelevance the moment you could no longer enter a Porsche dealer & actually order one for that. It's morally wrong but it's also the reality. :|What opinions are there on our forum regarding paying over MSRP for a Porsche? I was adamant against paying over MSRP but I feel myself reconsidering that stance........is paying 25K over MSRP excessive. Thoughts?
I will try this again......Well I've been a little shy on answering this as it isn't my money. However my opinion for what it's worth is that if 25k over the original manufacturers list price is the best price available, then to all intents & purposes that unfortunately is the new price. The manufacturers recommended price became an irrelevance the moment you could no longer enter a Porsche dealer & actually order one for that. It's morally wrong but it's also the reality. :|
The dealership build was pretty cool but the one I built is, well, mine..........now the wait begins. Though, the best car is still the 718.......first love.At $25K over MSRP, I can't even fathom why you would consider buying a car off the lot rather than configure one to your own specs.
I guess different strokes for different folks.
I've written on this subject before, but it's particularly relevant to your own situation & even with some repetition I feel its worth re-highlighting. In the U.K there isn't to my knowledge the practice of bumping up the price beyond the manufacturers recommended retail price. I don't think that's something that Porsche U.K would look on particularly kindly. Now whilst that might initially appear to be a good thing it doesn't really tend to work out that way in practice. What does have a tendency to happen is that the majority of GT's & specials tend to get sold to a select few & most customers don't even get the opportunity to get their hands on one. Not that is until a short time later, when they reappear for sale with very little mileage, but hugely inflated prices. It even happened with cars like the GT4, they were like gold dust, but six months down the line there were loads for sale. Loads that is, if you were prepared to fork out thousands over the original list price. In other words a large number were snapped up by speculators simply to turn a huge profit. Those used cars don't even always appear on the Porsche UK second hand listings, but they're there, back in the dealers & available for sale (I know of one dealer that had multiple GT4's at the same time & in the above time frame. Only one was shown on the network at any one time though & all were way over list). Quite frankly it stinks & you'd have to ask yourself why the dealer chose not to advertise them all on the Porsche U.K listings. Is it so that eyebrows don't get raised & awkward questions asked? I just don't know the answer to that, because if it's supposed to be a secret it's a very poorly kept one. So whilst the 25k U.S premium you're being charged seems wrong & lets be honest it is wrong, at least it meant you could go to the dealers & order the car. Here you're far less likely to be able to do that unless you're one of those select few & you'd had your name down for what would seem like an eternity (even often having to submit a letter of intent to purchase several months or more in advance of actually being able to order one). In the U.K therefore, the chances are that if you want something out of the norm, then you'd still most likely need to pay a premium to obtain it, but you'd also most likely be its second owner. Neither the way it's working in the U.S or in the U.K is ideal, in fact far from it. However given the choice between paying a premium for new & a premium for pre-owned, then being the first owner is infinitely preferable. Should Porsche perhaps make more GT's & Specials? Personally I'm sort of undecided on it. The demand is there, but the rarity is also partly what makes them so desirable. What do others think & what should Porsche do to address the prices dealers charge in the U.S & the problem of so many cars being snapped up by speculators in the U.K? :|The dealership build was pretty cool but the one I built is, well, mine..........now the wait begins.