[TheLip]

Baby is at the doctor because of an A/C issue so they gave me as a loaner a new Macan with only 5k miles on the odometer. It is a base model but pretty well loaded, which is extremely surprising for a dealership loaner, particularly in California. Anyway, the Auto Start/Stop remembers the setting from when the car was shut off, something my 2018 718C wont do.

Auto Start/Stop is used by the manufacturer to increase MPG rating for a vehicle. I would think that for any vehicle in the Porsche lineup, a SUV, not a two passenger sports car, would have the Auto Start/Stop not be persistent. Is this a signal that new Caymans and Boxsters will have persistent Auto Start/Stop settings?

Also, the Macan has PASM, which has three settings: Comfort, Sport and Sport Plus. I cannot tell a difference between the settings. I don't have PASM on my 718C but have been thinking about it for my next 718. Does anybody have it on their 718, and does it make a difference in street driving, or do you only notice it, if at all, when tracking your car?

Thanks.

 

[InTgr8r]

I don't have PASM on my 718C but have been thinking about it for my next 718. Does anybody have it on their 718, and does it make a difference in street driving, or do you only notice it, if at all, when tracking your car?

Yes, absolutely it makes a big difference.
On the street I normally use "S" and the car is fantastic for cruising.
The other day I inadvertently switched to "S+", I wondered why the dampening felt harsher than ususly, then I noticed I was in S+

I also track the car and there is definielty a big difference.

 

[MikePhDPE]

with pasm on you can feel street bumps more but the car is much flatter turning and accelerating/braking. I hate the former but like the latter so i'm torn as to whether to daily drive with it on or off.

 

[vhs]

Also, the Macan has PASM, which has three settings: Comfort, Sport and Sport Plus. I cannot tell a difference between the settings. I don't have PASM on my 718C but have been thinking about it for my next 718. Does anybody have it on their 718, and does it make a difference in street driving, or do you only notice it, if at all, when tracking your car?

The Macan must have SPASM, not PASM. I have PASM and usually drive in Sport mode when I get out of my neighborhood. My "go to" is PASM in Sport and PSM in Sport - it's definitely more responsive (and rigid) than in Normal mode for both of those. I haven't tracked my car yet, but it's more fun on the highway or twists. I had read before I bought my car that PASM was too much for the street - poppycock. There's a great variance in Porsche drivers.

 

[Snrubel]

My Macan GTS has Air Suspension (AS) with PASM, so may or may not be the right comparison, but there is a notable difference between normal/sport/sport+ that becomes obvious with time. Normal is about like a normal vehicle (CR-V, etc); whereas Sport+ feels like a soft approximation of a Cayman. So I always only drive the Macan in sport+ unless on a purely straight road.

The Cayman has only two settings, not three: normal and sport. The Cayman in normal mode is so good I never feel the need to use sport. However, my primary reason for getting PASM on the Cayman was to get this behavior/comfort in the normal mode.

So I got AS/PASM on the Macan to make it more sporty (to have access to sport+). I got the PASM on the Cayman to get it to be more relaxed (to have access to ‘normal’, which is more forgiving than the default dampers on the non-PASM cars). In both cases the vehicle is lower, so that’s a bonus.

Side Note: I am glad that I did NOT get SPASM on the Cayman. Sport mode is definitely firm enough for me for any application.

 

[JazzCatGab]

I have a 2019 Cayman with SC and PASM and the car came standard with PSE. Mine is not a DD so we enjoy twisty country roads most of the time. Once I get out of my subterranean condo garage, I switch to Sport in order to disable the Auto Stop/Start. I use Sport+ on the track and my Individual setting is Sport with SPASM for those particularly twisty roads that sometimes connect two twisty roads. I love the Sport gurgles too.

 

[TheLip]

But what about the fact that the auto start/stop retains the setting from the last time you drove? Will 2019 MY Caymans do that?

 

[mksz51]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that the 2019 Caymans do NOT retain the auto start / stop feature. Small side note - I read one time in an article that the European manufacturers did NOT start the auto start / stop feature for gas mileage. Instead, they did it to reduce carbon emissions. Either way - I don't like it. We have a Macan and a Cayman - the Macan retains the setting and the Cayman requires a button push. Just part of the routine in the Cayman...........

 

[jimmuller]

I hate the [much flatter turning] but like the [much flatter accelerating/braking]...

(Assuming I paraphrased you correctly) I'm curious about not liking flatter turning. My car has none of that fancy stuff (I'd use the acronym but I'd probably get it wrong), so I wouldn't know the difference. However it certainly seems to corner extremely well and flatter than any pancake I've ever driven before.

 

[MikePhDPE]

they did it to reduce carbon emissions.

Carbon emissions and fuel mileage are directly related. For practical purposes you could consider them the same thing.

 

[MikePhDPE]

(Assuming I paraphrased you correctly)

You assume wrongly, lol
"with pasm on you can feel street bumps more but the car is much flatter turning and accelerating/braking"

i hate feeling the bumps more but like the car being flatter in cornering/accelerating/braking. I hope this clarifies things.

 

[ritchieg]

Baby is at the doctor because of an A/C issue so they gave me as a loaner a new Macan with only 5k miles on the odometer. It is a base model but pretty well loaded, which is extremely surprising for a dealership loaner, particularly in California. Anyway, the Auto Start/Stop remembers the setting from when the car was shut off, something my 2018 718C wont do.

Auto Start/Stop is used by the manufacturer to increase MPG rating for a vehicle. I would think that for any vehicle in the Porsche lineup, a SUV, not a two passenger sports car, would have the Auto Start/Stop not be persistent. Is this a signal that new Caymans and Boxsters will have persistent Auto Start/Stop settings?

Also, the Macan has PASM, which has three settings: Comfort, Sport and Sport Plus. I cannot tell a difference between the settings. I don't have PASM on my 718C but have been thinking about it for my next 718. Does anybody have it on their 718, and does it make a difference in street driving, or do you only notice it, if at all, when tracking your car?

Thanks.

 

[ritchieg]

I have a 217 Boxster and purchased a module that I installed and with it the Stop/Start and Sport mode stay in the same condition when you restart the car as they were when you shut down the car. I have 21,000 miles on it and after I installed the module it has never shut off at a stop. The module is by T-Design.

 

[ritchieg]

I have a 2019 Cayman with SC and PASM and the car came standard with PSE. Mine is not a DD so we enjoy twisty country roads most of the time. Once I get out of my subterranean condo garage, I switch to Sport in order to disable the Auto Stop/Start. I use Sport+ on the track and my Individual setting is Sport with SPASM for those particularly twisty roads that sometimes connect two twisty roads. I love the Sport gurgles too.

 

[ritchieg]

I have a 718 Boxster with 21,000 miles on it. I installed the T-Design module on it and it keeps the stop/start switches and sport switch in the same position as when you turn off the car. After installing it at 2,000 miles the car has never shut down on a stop.