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Porsche's own view on Ceramic Brakes (PCCB)

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I ordered my 2019 CGTS with CCB . Because I am disabled and can't get down and clean the wheels after every drive. I mainly go to car shows and for short drives on back roads. I will never have to change them in my lifetime at my age. And they are yellow to match my car. It's a win, win, win for me. But the 7400.00 bucks is a hard pill to swallow. But I only have to swallow it once. If you are young and change vehicles often , they may not be worth it
 
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I passed on the PCCB, but if I was crazy enough to spend money on them it would purely be to make wheel cleaning easier.
The main reason I chose not to spec PCCB was cost, including taxes that option would cost 21.800 USD with the current exchange rate or 19.440 EUR with the fixed exchange rate.
For that amount I could get the whole car professionally cleaned a lot of times.
Second reason is style, I think the yellow calipers would clash with the Guards Red paint.
If Porsche has offered the PSCB (Porsche Surface Coated Brakes) as they do on the Cayenne I might have considered those given cost was reasonable.
Cast iron rotors with a laser cladded tungstencarbide in nickel matrix surface layer as far as I remember.
They believe so much in the concept that PSCB calipers are painted white.
 
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My 718B has the standard brakes and I expected break dust.On my Audi A6 wheels get dirty faster that light. But i am surprised cause on the carera classic wheels is nearly no dust after driving realy hard on the road.
I think most dust is blown out by the break cooling airflow. Never had a car with that less break dust. ;)
 
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exactly! i don't know if it's true or not but i was told (when placing my order) that a complete PCCB brake job (meaning new pads and rotors) is in the $15,000+ range at a dealer. cleaner wheels are nice and all but for that price i have better aftermarket brakes for life!
 
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I've been researching this because I'm in line for a new GT4, so I (assume I) get to decide whether to go with PCCB or iron. It's true that most track rats, and even race teams, use steel rotors because of the price. However, there's a new generation of CCB that uses a different rotor material and sintered pads that folks are having great success with—at least so far. Racing Brake makes them, David Donohue raced them, and others are trying them out. They seem to hit the sweet spot: lower cost and less fragile than PCCB, but with the same or better consistency, performance, and brake feel, and much better durability.

Also note that AP's new Essex-designed Radi-CAL iron setup is within 1.5 pounds per corner of the PCCBs, so they'd be a great option if CCBs are too pricey for ya, but you still want to ditch the extra unsprung weight.

I don't think either of these options available for the 718 yet, but are worth keeping an eye on. Since they're both aftermarket, I'm (again) leaning towards ordering the steel brakes on the GT4. The PCCBs are just too expensive for the benefits they provide given my intended use.
 
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Also note that AP's new Essex-designed Radi-CAL iron setup is within 1.5 pounds per corner of the PCCBs, so they'd be a great option if CCBs are too pricey for ya, but you still want to ditch the extra unsprung weight.

I have the AP's on my 718 GT4. Along with the weight reduction, they have 30% more bite than the PCCB's, the replacement costs are 1/3, and the pad selection is much better. Ferodo DS1.11 are easy to heat up and when hot are incredible. #Dundon
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