[Baka1969]

Hello Everybody,

Hopefully I will order a Cayman by the end of this year. I have been going back and forth trying to decide on which options I want, what I need, what I'd like and what would be nice to have compared to what I'll actually use.

Reality dictates that I am on a strict budget. I have set a $72,000 limit based on the configurator.

This Cayman will be a daily driver/commuter. As will a motorcycle.

My question is, how well does the Cayman with PTV handle inclement weather? Specifically in winter. I understand that it won't handle as well as my AWD Rav4. I would also like to know how it will handle without PTV. Specifically rain and not necessarily in ice.

PTV must be paired with PASM. Which makes the combination a $3+ option. $3,000 I could spend on other options. Like 14-way power two-tone seats.

I will never track the car. Not my thing. That said, I'll still have fun with it. I just want it also to be as comfortable, practical and relatively safe as possible.

So, what does everyone think? Do I need PTV? Or will I do well without it?

Thanks!

 

[johan]

If you need it or not its up to you.
https://www.718forum.com/forum/brakes-suspension/16300-how-does-non-pasm-compare-spasm-2.html
post nr12 there you have my thoughts


S-Pasm and PTV in Winter aint any problems at all.
It goes thru snow as a champ.

 

[Baka1969]

If you need it or not its up to you.
https://www.718forum.com/forum/brakes-suspension/16300-how-does-non-pasm-compare-spasm-2.html
post nr12 there you have my thoughts


S-Pasm and PTV in Winter aint any problems at all.
It goes thru snow as a champ.

Nice!

If it weren't required, I wouldn't get the PASM. I don't feel I need it. But, I can't get PTV without it. I just wonder how well it handles without PTV?

As an aside, I would absolutely put dedicated winter tires on for the winter season. Once temperatures hit consistently below 40* (5c). With their own wheels. Guessing they last around 6000 miles (10,000 km), they would probably last me the cold season.

 

[johan]

Nice!

If it weren't required, I wouldn't get the PASM. I don't feel I need it. But, I can't get PTV without it. I just wonder how well it handles without PTV?

As an aside, I would absolutely put dedicated winter tires on for the winter season. Once temperatures hit consistently below 40* (5c). With their own wheels. Guessing they last around 6000 miles (10,000 km), they would probably last me the cold season.

As long there aint a risk of snow down to 0C* is ok but there is always the risk of black ice.
In those cases it feels good to be able to gain control.


I had pasm but not ptv on my BS and i was happy with that combo it was when i had spasm and ptv i understood the point.
Under normal driving conditions you dont notice it but when you start to push it the "pivot" comes in to play.
Porsches slip diff in the ptv package aint the best diff around but it does its job but i never felt it last winter, could be i was taking it easy the snowy days.

 

[wriggly]

Farmers Almanac is predicting a colder snowier winter this year for parts of the USA. Might have to put the Blizzaks on the Subbie this year. Last year I was too lazy to put them on and it paid off with a mild winter and didn't need them.

Question about Sweden, do they use road salt over there?

 

[johan]

Farmers Almanac is predicting a colder snowier winter this year for parts of the USA. Might have to put the Blizzaks on the Subbie this year. Last year I was too lazy to put them on and it paid off with a mild winter and didn't need them.

Question about Sweden, do they use road salt over there?

We have a law here for winter tires and if your a foreigner driving over here at winter on summer tires customs wont let you in.
I live in the South and we have around 15 Days with snow on the roads so there will be road salt those days.
Further up where highest temp is -10C* or below they dont use it since it does not work when it is that cold.


Salt aint good for a car but it is also blown out of proportion!
My 986 from 2000 with 169 000 miles on it was my DD for over 16 years.
It looks fine underneath and no rust or excessive corrosion


But a good wash underneath is always a good thing!

 

[Baka1969]

I live in Philadelphia, PA and they use a lot of salt here. It is havoc on everything.

 

[aeronca65tl]

I drove my zero-option Cayman a bit in the snow last Winter and it was no issue.

Actually, the only mishap I had last Winter was in my wife's 4-wheel drive Honda SUV. Slid on black ice into curb....curb won (ouch!).

I ran Blizzaks on my previous car (Miata) for many years.....they make a huge difference. Almost like magic.


The 718 body/frame is galvanized so it is much less likely to rust than many vehicles. In fact that's the same reason I just bought a new GMC cargo van tow-vehicle last week (GMC & Chevy are galvanized...…..other cargo vans are not).
It's still a good idea to wash (especially the bottom of the car) regularly. We have a nearby self-serve car wash with a long wand and I like to use that often in the Winter. It's easier than dragging my pressure washer out in the Winter.

 

[RussellHodgson]

I don't have PTV on my CS and it handles really well in the snow. It is my daily driver and goes out in all weather. In the winter I put snow tires on and have never had an issue. Just give much more room for the SUVs that can't stop, and be gentle on the throttle.

 

[Viffermike]

If you need it or not its up to you.
https://www.718forum.com/forum/brakes-suspension/16300-how-does-non-pasm-compare-spasm-2.html
post nr12 there you have my thoughts


S-Pasm and PTV in Winter aint any problems at all.
It goes thru snow as a champ.

@johan is my frakking hero. This image takes the trendy white car/black wheels look to a WHOLE different level. >

 

[johan]

@johan is my frakking hero. This image takes the trendy white car/black wheels look to a WHOLE different level. >

LoL, well what can i say 0