[YellowChicken]

Naive question but I'm still bit frustrated not to have the SC on my (coming) 718S. Any retrofit option? I did not find anything but getting at least the nice chrono on the dashboard should not be too difficult...
Thanks

 

[YellowChicken]

By the way, another naive question: I'm looking for the details (equipment) of my (coming) cayman, anyway to get that from a good website using the VIN?
Anyone can tell me what are these seats? Not the base seats, right?
Cheers.

 

[MOG_80TH]

First and foremost, congrats with the car!

Your interior has me scratching my head in regards to spec. I note it has high gloss interior trim and also trim on the doors. The trim on the doors normally comes with the full leather interior package, at least according to the configurator that is currently up.

Aside from that, what I can tell from the pic above is you have the following options:

• Standard Interior - Leather Seats
• Smokers Pack
• GT Steering Wheel
• Multifunction heated Steering Wheel
• Looks like you have Auto HVAC
• Yellow Seat Belts
• Cruise Control
• PASM

Good luck with the car!

P

 

[718Niko]

Congrats ! Which part of France are you?
Just curious how One could have a coming car but no details about the options?
A Porsche dealer might be able to get you all the info you want regarding retrofitting and potentially the options. You might also be able to register the car on the porsche website and get more info.

 

[982CS]

I'm 99.9% sure you can't retro fit Sport Chrono package. It's more than just chronograph on the dash - Porsche 718 Cayman - Sport Chrono Package - Porsche Great Britain

 

[craig66]

As to your seat question to be sure I need to see a little higher on the seats to be sure but they do look like sports plus seats, Whether they are 18 way or 4 way we need to see the side controls

As to the SC I really would not beat yourself up too much and don't get me wrong but SC cam be fun but it is also possibly a little more over rated than one would think. Sports plus is fun but very intense and too intense for most people off of the track, Launch control is fun once or twice but then almost never gets used and sport response is also easily achieved by a firm kick down in the throttle which will snd you flying back in your seats

 

[AVM]

My first Macan Turbo did not have SC. It was my first Porsche, and I guess I did not know the lingo, amenities available. . . or how to properly ring the cash register.

Local Porsche dealership cost for SC retrofit was $1,200 U.S. Took about 1hour. Couple points regarding process . . .

When you get SC retrofit you only get the Sport-Plus performance. They do not replace the center clock (e.g., no digital counter that comes with center clock when SC is ordered from factory). You can get the SC clock retrofit, but you will more than double parts and labor cost.

The process does not simply involve replacing a ‘blank’ center panel button where ‘Sport-Plus’ button would have gone if ordered stock from factory. Rather, the entire left panel (U.S. vehicle) is replaced to include the Sport-Plus button. Not a big dealer with regard to parts/labor cost. The reason it is important to know is if you order parts from a third party (e.g., Suncoast) they will need your specific model build for proper parts order. If you have dealer order parts, they will know what to order, but probably add the ‘Porsche tax.’

No new wiring required. Only ‘hooking up’ the center panel buttons to pre-existing wiring. I am sure there is a way to do it all through a third party, however, the crucial step after center panel button installation is updating the ECU. This requires a code that comes directly from Porsche. I do not know if third parties are permitted to access and execute ECU update? Either way, I just had my dealership do everything for peace of mind.

Finally, it is not simply a matter of getting Sport-Plus engine performance (e.g., regarding shift points). Important you have the correct - YOUR specific - build that matches both center counsel buttons AND other performance options. For example, my Macan Turbo had Sport and Sport-plus suspension. Thus, PROPER addition of the SC automatically linked engine and suspension performance in a manner that it would have had if ordered stock from the factory.

All of this might sound convoluted, but it is really simple and quick if you allow dealership to order parts and perform installation.

Hope that helps.

AVM

 

[YellowChicken]

Congrats ! Which part of France are you?
Just curious how One could have a coming car but no details about the options?
A Porsche dealer might be able to get you all the info you want regarding retrofitting and potentially the options. You might also be able to register the car on the porsche website and get more info.

Actually I bought it privately (no dealer), as a second hand. The saler did not provided all the details. Thanks for your answer. Best, C

 

[YellowChicken]

First and foremost, congrats with the car!

Your interior has me scratching my head in regards to spec. I note it has high gloss interior trim and also trim on the doors. The trim on the doors normally comes with the full leather interior package, at least according to the configurator that is currently up.

Aside from that, what I can tell from the pic above is you have the following options:

• Standard Interior - Leather Seats
• Smokers Pack
• GT Steering Wheel
• Multifunction heated Steering Wheel
• Looks like you have Auto HVAC
• Yellow Seat Belts
• Cruise Control
• PASM

Good luck with the car!

P

Thanks a lot for your reply. Are all S equipped with sport seats? I think these are sport seats, right? Cheers

 

[YellowChicken]

As to your seat question to be sure I need to see a little higher on the seats to be sure but they do look like sports plus seats, Whether they are 18 way or 4 way we need to see the side controls

As to the SC I really would not beat yourself up too much and don't get me wrong but SC cam be fun but it is also possibly a little more over rated than one would think. Sports plus is fun but very intense and too intense for most people off of the track, Launch control is fun once or twice but then almost never gets used and sport response is also easily achieved by a firm kick down in the throttle which will snd you flying back in your seats

Thanks for your reply, yes it is tricky to conclude on the seats. With a larger pict I would be able to answer my question as well. In my previous Boxster 981S, I had the sport / 18 way. Pretty nice seats. I know what the SC does since I had it as well on several cars (987S, 997.2 and 981S). Actually I did not use it, even on track days as I found it counterproductive, not to say stupid. However, I love the chronometer on the dashboard... Just a whim...

 

[YellowChicken]

My first Macan Turbo did not have SC. It was my first Porsche, and I guess I did not know the lingo, amenities available. . . or how to properly ring the cash register.

Local Porsche dealership cost for SC retrofit was $1,200 U.S. Took about 1hour. Couple points regarding process . . .

When you get SC retrofit you only get the Sport-Plus performance. They do not replace the center clock (e.g., no digital counter that comes with center clock when SC is ordered from factory). You can get the SC clock retrofit, but you will more than double parts and labor cost.

The process does not simply involve replacing a ‘blank’ center panel button where ‘Sport-Plus’ button would have gone if ordered stock from factory. Rather, the entire left panel (U.S. vehicle) is replaced to include the Sport-Plus button. Not a big dealer with regard to parts/labor cost. The reason it is important to know is if you order parts from a third party (e.g., Suncoast) they will need your specific model build for proper parts order. If you have dealer order parts, they will know what to order, but probably add the ‘Porsche tax.’

No new wiring required. Only ‘hooking up’ the center panel buttons to pre-existing wiring. I am sure there is a way to do it all through a third party, however, the crucial step after center panel button installation is updating the ECU. This requires a code that comes directly from Porsche. I do not know if third parties are permitted to access and execute ECU update? Either way, I just had my dealership do everything for peace of mind.

Finally, it is not simply a matter of getting Sport-Plus engine performance (e.g., regarding shift points). Important you have the correct - YOUR specific - build that matches both center counsel buttons AND other performance options. For example, my Macan Turbo had Sport and Sport-plus suspension. Thus, PROPER addition of the SC automatically linked engine and suspension performance in a manner that it would have had if ordered stock from the factory.

All of this might sound convoluted, but it is really simple and quick if you allow dealership to order parts and perform installation.

Hope that helps.

AVM

Thank you so much for the detailed reply! This indeed helps a lot. I'll definitely think about it, thanks again.

 

[girarcat]

By the way, another naive question: I'm looking for the details (equipment) of my (coming) cayman, anyway to get that from a good website using the VIN?
Anyone can tell me what are these seats? Not the base seats, right?
Cheers.

I had the same problem as you a few days ago. The seller provided me with a list of optional equipment, but I wanted something more official to make sure the list provided was 100% accurate. I solved it calling my local Porsche dealer and providing the VIN. They sent me a 4 page document stating all the options included on the car, warranty expiration date and so on.

 

[craig66]

Finally, it is not simply a matter of getting Sport-Plus engine performance (e.g., regarding shift points). Important you have the correct - YOUR specific - build that matches both center counsel buttons AND other performance options. For example, my Macan Turbo had Sport and Sport-plus suspension. Thus, PROPER addition of the SC automatically linked engine and suspension performance in a manner that it would have had if ordered stock from the factory.

All of this might sound convoluted, but it is really simple and quick if you allow dealership to order parts and perform installation.

Hope that helps.

AVM

AVM, Thanks for the great information although I am a little confused.
If one has a base boxster and one has SC retrofitted aside from the clock which I totally understand what other features, characteristics or upgrades will one not get since it was added after market

Thanks

 

[AVM]

AVM, Thanks for the great information although I am a little confused.
If one has a base boxster and one has SC retrofitted aside from the clock which I totally understand what other features, characteristics or upgrades will one not get since it was added after market

Thanks

Craig

I am not completely certain what you mean by ‘other features?’ Hope the following helps . . .

As per my example above, my first Macan Turbo came only with Sport (engine) performance from factory. What exactly is Sport and Sport Plus when it comes to engine performance? More on this further below but, as far as I can tell, they only offer performance enhancement to those using PDK in automatic mode.

My Macan Turbo also came from factory with PASM (suspension performance) and PSE. PASM comes with three settings (Normal, Sport and Sport-Plus).

In the picture below, I only had the ‘Sport’ and suspension buttons from factory (no Sport Plus performance button). The Sport Plus button was added with retrofitting. Again, the entire left control panel is replaced, not a simple matter of adding a Sport Plus button. Please note that the suspension button has three lighting options if you have PASM. OFF (no light), ON with one light lit (Sport), and ON with two lights lit (Sport Plus). You can control suspension independently by use of the suspension button.

Conversely, if you press the Sport performance button the suspension will automatically also go into Sport mode (one light lit). If you have Sport Plus button and press it, the suspension will automatically go into Sport Plus mode (two lights lit). Of course, you can set options according to your own liking by pressing buttons, as well as through your ‘Individual’ option. Finally, please not that Sport suspension is different than PASM, as the former is set, while the latter is adjustable.

Similar comments regarding exhaust options (e.g., +/- PSE), which are also linked to performance mode.

Through the above examples, you can see there are multiple different scenarios regarding how retrofitting Sport Chrono can impact engine, suspension and exhaust performance – depending on what stock options you order from factory. Therefore, it is not a simple matter of ‘adding a button’ to the center control panel; why the programming is vehicle specific; and why I recommend having the install done by a certified Porsche dealership.

As far as engine performance goes, Sport Chrono is most apparent with PDK automatic mode, as shift points are altered and typically occur higher in the power band (e.g., higher RPMs). I do not wish to digress too far, but this is the basis of a recent thread I started regarding PDK manual mode. Namely, my sense is that shifts are faster, but I have been unable to get confirmation from Porsche literature or forum members – other than some have similar, albeit unconfirmed impression.

If you think about Sport and Sport Plus exclusively in terms of engine performance, the only thing I can confirm is altered shift points in PDK automatic mode. If such is the ONLY engine performance gain, then it would make absolutely no sense to have Sport and Sport Plus (Sport Chrono) with a MT where you control your own shifts. Likewise, if you prefer to drive in PDK manual mode – as I do – then there would similarly be no advantage.

I must believe there are other advantages for which I am unaware and inquired about in separate thread. By ‘advantages’ I mean things YOU cannot control via performance of your own shifts (MT or PDK manual mode), or pushing PASM and PSE buttons. I do not consider ‘more burbles’ in Sport mode an exhaust advantage or improvement, and would certainly never get Sport just to hear them. Likewise, you lose the enhanced burble feature with Sport Plus (Sport Chrono). At this point, I am convinced the only performance advantage with Sport or Sport Plus comes with higher shift points in PDK owners using the automatic mode.

Well, there is one ‘other feature’ for which I am aware when retrofitting Sport Chrono. Namely, gaining access to Launch Control and corresponding to PCM functions (e.g., lap times, etc). I never use Launch Control, so not a feature I have ever explored to any significant extent.

AVM

 

[craig66]

AVM, Thank you. I do understand and agree that for a owner of a base boxster with PDK who drives almost exclusively in manual mode and sport mode (aside from when in stop and go traffic) that there are far better ways for me to waste money !!!!

Thanks for the lengthy explanation !!

 

[AVM]

AVM, Thank you. I do understand and agree that for a owner of a base boxster with PDK who drives almost exclusively in manual mode and sport mode (aside from when in stop and go traffic) that there are far better ways for me to waste money !!!!

Thanks for the lengthy explanation !!

Craig

You are welcome. I’m sorry for the verbose nature of my response.

As you relate, the point of my last response was that I see absolutely no performance advantage with Sport and Sport Plus for anyone with MT or using PDK in manual mode.

Basically, YOU control shift points in each of the latter and, in my opinion, far better than the ECU does in automatic mode. Then again, I wring the living piss out of my engine, while others might not feel so inclined and/or comfortable doing such. For them, PDK in automatic Sport or Sport Plus modes is just fine. If you have a MT, not sure of any advantage whatsoever?

I have sought unknown answer(s) to my question, but nothing convincing or confirmed by Porsche to date.

AVM

 

[ldamelio]

Sport Chrono on the 718 also includes dynamic engine mounts FWIW. I assume adding those aftermarket would be very costly.

 

[girarcat]

Sport Chrono on the 718 also includes dynamic engine mounts FWIW. I assume adding those aftermarket would be very costly.

What exactly is this dynamic engine mounts thing? I've heard it many times but I'm not sure how they work

 

[AVM]

Sport Chrono on the 718 also includes dynamic engine mounts FWIW. I assume adding those aftermarket would be very costly.

Ida

Are you sure it’s dynamic engine mounts, and not dynamic transmission mounts?

AVM

 

[Silversword]

Ida

Are you sure it’s dynamic engine mounts, and not dynamic transmission mounts?

AVM

It is dynamic transmission mounts. Either way, probably another big job to add on. Plus the rotary drive mode selector on the steering wheel is part of the SC package - may be easier or harder than replacing parts of the centre console, no idea.