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Let them say whatever they like, they've kind of missed the point completely and they don't spend their own money on these cars anyways.

Some are claiming serial production of 4.0 GTS?, could be that my Porsche SA is talking horse shiite but they are one of the biggest dealers in UK and aren't even getting a demonstrator due to low volumes expected.

Besides all that, and I appreciate its difficult to tell from online videos - but the sound of the new F6 isn't exactly stirring. Know for sure I won't be rushing out to trade in my F4T. Each to their own.
 

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If you’re a 4T owner like me that gets pissed at people crapping on our cars I suggest you stay off of YouTube for a while. The GTS4.0 press event means all sorts of YouTube videos talking about how our cars suck, are now worthless, etc. Just FYI.
And exactly why some people will trade in their car for the newest version. Porsche knows exactly what they are doing and that's using the down play of the F4T to manipulate sales. Sure they'll find a few suckers that'll fall for the "Sound is all I care about" or in other words "I care what others think and willing to drop serious coin to have their approval".

Honestly, and I know it would be difficult to prove to anyone this isn't just bias... but I don't think the new 4.0 sounds anything like the 981 engines. IMO It's dull and lacks that wail of the older engines.

If I wanted the sound with comparable performance, I'd be looking at 2016 GTS or GT4's. I have in fact looked, but only because this one GTS keeps haunting me. It's just an amazing spec and looks great. Why won't this car sell already and leave me alone? But, I always come back to the fact that my S with all the options is superior in all ways to this evil seed that's been planted in my mind.
 

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I'd love to have a face-to-face conversation with some of these critical engine experts.
My son-in-law just bought a new Mercedes 250 CLA. It's not my style of car, but it makes him happy. I'm delighted for him. My other son-in-law just bought a new Jeep. Again, not my style of car, but I'm happy for him.
I have an acquaintance who owns one of the world's most valuable cars. It's so rare and valuable that it is almost unusable. I would not be inclined to buy such a car (even if I were as rich as him), because it would be so hard to use and enjoy. But it brings him joy, so again, I am happy for him.
My brother's father-in-law has an old hot rod. He gets great pleasure from owning it. It's a car I'd never want, but I love seeing him smile when he talks about it.
See a pattern?
I would say this is a normal response for ordinary human beings. We are generally happy to see others around us who are happy.
But I think the internet allows people with certain, malignant personality disorders to hide behind a key board and reveal their darker views with very little consequence.
All this talk about lesser car engines and greater car engines seems like some sort of schadenfreude, where people take pleasure in seeing other people's mistakes. It reminds me of pathological narcissism where a person puts down others to make themselves feel superior. Honestly, when I read people complaining about the engine choice someone has made in a buying a car, I'm a bit sad to see a life focused on such a petty issue.
If someone wants to buy a new Whatchamacallit with the 11 cylinder Turbo-electric engine, I wish them well and hope they enjoy it as much as I am enjoying my 2.0 base Cayman.
Again, I'd love to have a face-to-face conversation with some of these folks; I wonder if their critique would be so brave in-person?
OK....off my soap-box now. :p
 

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I'd love to have a face-to-face conversation with some of these critical engine experts.
My son-in-law just bought a new Mercedes 250 CLA. It's not my style of car, but it makes him happy. I'm delighted for him. My other son-in-law just bought a new Jeep. Again, not my style of car, but I'm happy for him.
I have an acquaintance who owns one of the world's most valuable cars. It's so rare and valuable that it is almost unusable. I would not be inclined to buy such a car (even if I were as rich as him), because it would be so hard to use and enjoy. But it brings him joy, so again, I am happy for him.
My brother's father-in-law has an old hot rod. He gets great pleasure from owning it. It's a car I'd never want, but I love seeing him smile when he talks about it.
See a pattern?
I would say this is a normal response for ordinary human beings. We are generally happy to see others around us who are happy.
But I think the internet allows people with certain, malignant personality disorders to hide behind a key board and reveal their darker views with very little consequence.
All this talk about lesser car engines and greater car engines seems like some sort of schadenfreude, where people take pleasure in seeing other people's mistakes. It reminds me of pathological narcissism where a person puts down others to make themselves feel superior. Honestly, when I read people complaining about the engine choice someone has made in a buying a car, I'm a bit sad to see a life focused on such a petty issue.
If someone wants to buy a new Whatchamacallit with the 11 cylinder Turbo-electric engine, I wish them well and hope they enjoy it as much as I am enjoying my 2.0 base Cayman.
Again, I'd love to have a face-to-face conversation with some of these folks; I wonder if their critique would be so brave in-person?
OK....off my soap-box now. :p
Well summed up! Couldn't agree more.
 
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Some are claiming serial production of 4.0 GTS?, could be that my Porsche SA is talking horse shiite but they are one of the biggest dealers in UK and aren't even getting a demonstrator due to low volumes expected.
My SA here in Atlanta said last week that they've received no interest in the GTS 4.0 yet. Could be due to the timing of the release here in the states (2021 I believe for first delivery), but the internet hysteria does not match AT ALL the interest actually shown, at my local dealership anyway. Just another data point to add to the sample.
 

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My SA here in Atlanta said last week that they've received no interest in the GTS 4.0 yet. Could be due to the timing of the release here in the states (2021 I believe for first delivery), but the internet hysteria does not match AT ALL the interest actually shown, at my local dealership anyway. Just another data point to add to the sample.
Here in little old NZ my SA took three orders the week it was released. There is another data point to add to the sample.
 

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I did watch a bunch of those youtube videos and the car does sound great...but all I could think about was how lucky and fortunate I am to be driving my first Porsche after driving many other cars over the past 30 years. All good...
I wasn't impressed by the sound of the engine note in the video at all. It was muted and flat. Not at all like the 981 variant.
 

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So I've watched a few of the vids and as some here have stated, it does sound good. I am still getting to grips with my GTS and have mentioned that I am growing to like how it 'sounds' but can't argue that this will sound better. Doesn't mean mine isn't any good so please don't hate me for this comment :) With cars and tech, there is always the better thing to come - it's fact.

To the comments that it doesn't sound as good as the 981 - 100% correct. I was really fortunate to have two identical spec'd Spyders pull up - a 981 and 982. My god that 981 sounded amazing. The 982 sounded good as well but nowhere near as visceral as the other. Ok, here is a point where not all new things are better :)

Regardless of engine preference, I'm just happy there is now some new content to be watched on our beloved 718. The same comments keep coming up in that the chassis is near perfect.

Have a browse of Autogefühl's youtube account. There is an eyeopener of a comparison between the 718 T and 992. 718 fans through and through.

Apologies for being a bit off topic. :)
 

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If you’re a 4T owner like me that gets pissed at people crapping on our cars I suggest you stay off of YouTube for a while. The GTS4.0 press event means all sorts of YouTube videos talking about how our cars suck, are now worthless, etc. Just FYI.
Tbh getting pissed off with hearing them the 2.5 gts is a great car all these people whining most cant even afford a porsche in most cases

Absolute idiots


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Let them say whatever they like, they've kind of missed the point completely and they don't spend their own money on these cars anyways.

Some are claiming serial production of 4.0 GTS?, could be that my Porsche SA is talking horse shiite but they are one of the biggest dealers in UK and aren't even getting a demonstrator due to low volumes expected.

Besides all that, and I appreciate its difficult to tell from online videos - but the sound of the new F6 isn't exactly stirring. Know for sure I won't be rushing out to trade in my F4T. Each to their own.
Couldnt agree more


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all these people whining most cant even afford a porsche in most cases
While most likely true, it is this type of comment that people refer to as "Porsche Snobs".

I'm not disagreeing with you, the constant poor attitude and comments from those that have ZERO input and or skin in the game is just a product of our culture and very disheartening. I suggest we elevate above these people and not give them fodder to feed on.
 

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Tbh getting pissed off with hearing them the 2.5 gts is a great car all these people whining most cant even afford a porsche in most cases

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I believe Aesop recognized this as “sour grapes”. “Look at that beautiful girl, she’s probably a B——”. Or... not?
 
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I dunno, for just a little bit more I could have the marque Porsche 911. Part of the allure of the Cayman/Boxster, at least for me, is it’s basically a mid engine sports car that drives and handles way above its class for a reasonable amount of money. Until the Corvette C8 came out, there wasn’t anything really like it. Once you start getting into 911 pricing, well, you might as well buy a 911.
 

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I saw the GTS 4.0 announcement/release as a great opportunity to recently pick up a super low mileage 2019 CPO 718 Boxster GTS at an excellent price. I am very happy with my new purchase. Maybe naive, but I love the sound of this car and the manual 6 speed gear box. A 2021 GTS 4.0 with same options my 2019 GTS has would be $30K+ more than what I just paid. That is some expensive sound. Zero remorse here.
 

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I saw the GTS 4.0 announcement/release as a great opportunity to recently pick up a super low mileage 2019 CPO 718 Boxster GTS at an excellent price. I am very happy with my new purchase. Maybe naive, but I love the sound of this car and the manual 6 speed gear box. A 2021 GTS 4.0 with same options my 2019 GTS has would be $30K+ more than what I just paid. That is some expensive sound. Zero remorse here.
I'd say good move and nicely done!!
 

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I saw the GTS 4.0 announcement/release as a great opportunity to recently pick up a super low mileage 2019 CPO 718 Boxster GTS at an excellent price. I am very happy with my new purchase. Maybe naive, but I love the sound of this car and the manual 6 speed gear box. A 2021 GTS 4.0 with same options my 2019 GTS has would be $30K+ more than what I just paid. That is some expensive sound. Zero remorse here.
I figure I saved $17,000 by buying my 718 GTS last May versus waiting (for who knows how long) and buying a GTS 4.0. Last week I put the "saved" cash towards a new (used) sports car that will be delivered early March. Will post pictures once the trailer arrives! Happy Motoring! Beats waiting!
 
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