[wriggly]

Started my GTS after it sat for over a week in the garage. Holy Guacamole did it sound like crap. Tappet noise was so loud it sounded broke. After letting it warm up for awhile and shutting it off and restarting a few times it got progressively quieter. Finally after the oil got up to 190 degrees it sounded normal again. I'm glad no one was around, I would've been embarrassed.
Anyone else ever experience this?

 

[Andros X Thomson]

I have the same thing on my 2.0. It’s likely normal due to engine design. But I have it go away similar to you, or after the car warms up a bit. It might also be exaggerated sounding due to where the engine is located. My golf r, gti, and Impreza all had similar, just couldn’t hear it in the cabin.

 

[Malcolm E Cay]

I have the same. Not very often but I will be speaking to my OPC about it as it doesn't sound right.

 

[ronaldvetteron]

Don't forget they 'pipe' the engine sound directly into the engine compartment in the 718. I was very aware of all that sound when I test drove the 2.0 and 2.5 as part of my research for a future order of a 2019. I can tell you that, for what it is worth, the engine sound in my Cayman R was much more pronounced than my 08 CS similar to what you describe but learned, that it was the nature of the beast.

 

[johan]

Don't forget they 'pipe' the engine sound directly into the engine compartment in the 718. I was very aware of all that sound when I test drove the 2.0 and 2.5 as part of my research for a future order of a 2019. I can tell you that, for what it is worth, the engine sound in my Cayman R was much more pronounced than my 08 CS similar to what you describe but learned, that it was the nature of the beast.

Are you sure about that?
They did route the intake on 981 but on 718 you dont have anything like that, instead there is the dreaded sound aktor.......

 

[Andros X Thomson]

My sound actor is disabled. So it’s not that.

 

[ronaldvetteron]

That is actually want I meant by piping.......good clarification.

 

[Namyacs]

Please could someone explain what you mean by ‘sound actor’ ? Is the sound enhanced some how through the speakers in the car ?

 

[Sails Call]

My 718C definitely has a lot of mechanical noise at startup. The valve train quites down after warm up. I am assuming it is the nature of the flat engine design.

 

[dpcompt]

Isn't that sound the tappets lacking oil. I have had that sound in my '17CS once in awhile and it goes away. I think there is another thread discussing this subject.

 

[johan]

Please could someone explain what you mean by ‘sound actor’ ? Is the sound enhanced some how through the speakers in the car ?

The sound aktor sits on the fire wall and it works as a butt kicker/speaker so it is producing vibration and sound to "enhance" the engine noise.
Most of us kind of hate it cause it just produces one noted rumble that have nothing to to with engine sound.


You do it from the rear trunk and if you have a Cayman its really easy, on the Boxster there is some lining that has to be bent down.
Panda ( ) took some pics and you will find them half way down here: http://www.718forum.com/forum/electronics-audio-lighting/7698-soundaktor-sound-generator-3.html

 

[Nithros]

My 2018 GTS with 4500 miles on it did that the other day for the first time. The one thing that was different (and I usually try not to do) was that it had been sitting for several days and I started it up for about 30 seconds to move it and then shut it down. The sound happened the next day when I started it back up. I have noticed this same thing on my wife's last two Nissans - not saying they are related. If I start the car cold to just move it and then shut it off and then wait a day to start it back up again - it does this. I am also not saying this was the cause - it's just an observation.

 

[splinter]

No undue tappet/lifter noise per se, but plenty of delicious clatter ostensibly from its DOHC drive chains and attendant guides and tensioners.


Quiet these cars' drivetrain mechanical bits are not imho.

 

[Schredder]

I noticed this noise on more than a few of the old beetles , and this seems like just a part of oil being circulated through the engine. When I heard the salesman start the BGTS at the dealership , that car made this kind of noise and it came out of it in 20 seconds. It was very noticeable from behind the car where I was when he started it. My friend is an avid beetle engine guy and he even commented that it had the beetle clattering noise , He said it will smooth out in a min. 15 more seconds and it went away. I thinks it's the nature of the beast

 

[Michael1]

Doesn't the Cayman engine have hydraulic lifters? If so, I don't see why the valve train would be making all that noise. I test drove a Cayman 2.0 the other day, and I thought to myself that it was worst sounding engine I've ever heard.

 

[Viffermike]

Doesn't the Cayman engine have hydraulic lifters? If so, I don't see why the valve train would be making all that noise. I test drove a Cayman 2.0 the other day, and I thought to myself that it was worst sounding engine I've ever heard.

Careful ... that last phrase constitutes fighting words 'round these parts ... >

Think about this, folks. Most cars have hydraulic lifters. Thing is, most cars also have their engines in front of you by at least four feet, behind heavily insulated firewalls and dashboards and covered with all manner of clatter-deflecting plastic and sound-masking audio speakers.

Our 718s are not most cars:
- The engine starts about a foot behind your head
- The engine compartment is not heavily insulated
- The engine has absolutely zero cosmetic/insulatory bits bolted directly to it
- The boxer design promotes engine noise when cold because the crankshaft and cylinders are at the same level and almost all crankshaft-driven bits are above both -- because of this, oil basically reaches the crankshaft train last
- That crankshaft train is closer to your ears than the clutch, the cylinders, the crankshaft, and the exhaust manifold
- The four-cylinder configuration masks drivetrain clatter less than a six-cylinder configuration (this has to do with the aural effect of firing order)
- Etc., etc., etc.

Almost all of the cars I've owned have exhibited varying degrees of tap-type engine noise, particularly when cold. Thing is, it's only really noticeable when the hood was up on most of them. Essentially, our 718s are operating with the 'hood' partially up all the time because of the above points.

My college car was a 1974 VW Beetle, which, as another poster has mentioned, had tappet noise for days. So do any and all air-cooled 911s. I guess that in my case, the noise is sentimental ... but I'm also attuned to it, and because of that I note it in every car I drive.

 

[Michael1]

Careful ... that last phrase constitutes fighting words 'round these parts ... >

Think about this, folks. Most cars have hydraulic lifters. Thing is, most cars also have their engines in front of you by at least four feet, behind heavily insulated firewalls and dashboards and covered with all manner of clatter-deflecting plastic and sound-masking audio speakers.

Our 718s are not most cars:
- The engine starts about a foot behind your head
- The engine compartment is not heavily insulated
- The engine has absolutely zero cosmetic/insulatory bits bolted directly to it
- The boxer design promotes engine noise when cold because the crankshaft and cylinders are at the same level and almost all crankshaft-driven bits are above both -- because of this, oil basically reaches the crankshaft train last
- That crankshaft train is closer to your ears than the clutch, the cylinders, the crankshaft, and the exhaust manifold
- The four-cylinder configuration masks drivetrain clatter less than a six-cylinder configuration (this has to do with the aural effect of firing order)
- Etc., etc., etc.

Almost all of the cars I've owned have exhibited varying degrees of tap-type engine noise, particularly when cold. Thing is, it's only really noticeable when the hood was up on most of them. Essentially, our 718s are operating with the 'hood' partially up all the time because of the above points.

My very first car was a 1974 VW Beetle, which, as another poster has mentioned, had tappet noise for days. So do any and all air-cooled 911s. I guess that in my case, the noise is sentimental ... but I'm also attuned to it, and because of that I note it in every car I drive.

Haha! Well, on the plus side, I didn't notice any drone, which is unusual for a four cylinder engine, and vibration was well controlled. I'll take some tappet noise, and some other not so pretty sounds over drone any day of the week.

 

[Andros X Thomson]

My Subaru’s an VWs made the same noise. Viffermike is correct. I’ve ripped the engine panels off and the only insulation is a foil heat suppression mat and the foam backed carpet.

 

[Gtipirelli]

Glad to hear the tappety sound is quite normal as I have also noticed it after the car has been sat for a few days. It does sound pretty awful though. On the move at normal speeds the engine is very quiet, it is just the tyre roar that is intrusive but I have noticed that on my last car with part worn Pirelli tyres. Think I will swap to Michelin next as reports are that they are a better tyre all round. The cayman is amazingly surface sensitive with regard cabin noise

 

[Nosmo]

Glad to hear the tappety sound is quite normal as I have also noticed it after the car has been sat for a few days. It does sound pretty awful though. On the move at normal speeds the engine is very quiet, it is just the tyre roar that is intrusive but I have noticed that on my last car with part worn Pirelli tyres. Think I will swap to Michelin next as reports are that they are a better tyre all round. The cayman is amazingly surface sensitive with regard cabin noise

I think it's the state of the UK roads. I didn't have this issue over the weekend when travelling on the continent. The state of the roads in the UK is so abysmal that it affects (logically?) the noise intrusion into the cabin. Pirelli P0 new summer tyres.