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So my buddy and work colleague recently purchased a 2017 Cayman: 2.0, Agate Grey, PDK. He had H&R Sport Springs installed along with spacers for the front and rear. It looks really good, but it does sit rather low. Vivid Racing is a local tuner shop in the Phoenix valley. The VR Tune is their iteration for an ECU tune for the 718. They used his car for the prototype of the VR Tune. I drove his car before and after the tune. There's definitely a feel of increased power! It's absolutely noticeable almost everywhere in the powerband. Because of the slightly increased boost, you do feel a bit more lag than normal, but then the power comes on stronger than normal as well. In my opinion, it gives the car almost the same amount of pull that you get with a Cayman S, but the power delivery and feel is much more natural in the Cayman S. For the money, it seems to do the trick. I will likely get my car tuned as well, whether I'll be using the VR Tune or not is still up in the air. I'll see as his car put the miles on. In the enclosed link below, that's his car they use in the YouTube video and pics.

https://www.vividracing.com/catalog...xster-cayman-20l-turbo-300hp-p-151880266.html
 

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I don't know what I'm doing wrong with the link above. If you click on the link above, select the 2017 Porsche 718 Cayman, then click on ECU tune, it will take you to the right spot.
 

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So my buddy and work colleague recently purchased a 2017 Cayman: 2.0, Agate Grey, PDK. He had H&R Sport Springs installed along with spacers for the front and rear. It looks really good, but it does sit rather low. Vivid Racing is a local tuner shop in the Phoenix valley. The VR Tune is their iteration for an ECU tune for the 718. They used his car for the prototype of the VR Tune. I drove his car before and after the tune. There's definitely a feel of increased power! It's absolutely noticeable almost everywhere in the powerband. Because of the slightly increased boost, you do feel a bit more lag than normal, but then the power comes on stronger than normal as well. In my opinion, it gives the car almost the same amount of pull that you get with a Cayman S, but the power delivery and feel is much more natural in the Cayman S. For the money, it seems to do the trick. I will likely get my car tuned as well, whether I'll be using the VR Tune or not is still up in the air. I'll see as his car put the miles on. In the enclosed link below, that's his car they use in the YouTube video and pics.

https://www.vividracing.com/catalog...xster-cayman-20l-turbo-300hp-p-151880266.html
You mentioned an introduction of more lag with the tune. Would you say that if your friend's car was a manual transmission that the boost loss between shifts with the tune could be an annoyance? I am currently in process of purchasing a 718C and will most certainly get a tune. In some higher boost cars with a manual transmission I've noticed the loss of boost between shifts can take away from the overall enjoyment of driving. Obviously with PDK there would not be any loss of boost between shifts.

Curious because if the loss of boost between shifts with a tune would be an issue, I would sacrifice the MT and go the PDK route without a doubt.

Thoughts?
 

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You mentioned an introduction of more lag with the tune. Would you say that if your friend's car was a manual transmission that the boost loss between shifts with the tune could be an annoyance? I am currently in process of purchasing a 718C and will most certainly get a tune. In some higher boost cars with a manual transmission I've noticed the loss of boost between shifts can take away from the overall enjoyment of driving. Obviously with PDK there would not be any loss of boost between shifts.

Curious because if the loss of boost between shifts with a tune would be an issue, I would sacrifice the MT and go the PDK route without a doubt.

Thoughts?
Well, my car that should arrive within a month will be a 718C with a manual transmission. I will likely get the car tuned as well. If you're asking if the turbo lag would be more noticeable in a manual, I couldn't obviously say for sure, but I'm betting the lag will be a bit more noticeable between shifts in a manual. That being said, my current daily is a highly boosted Golf R (manual transmission) with a larger turbo, intercooler, high and low pressure fuel pump, etc... The lag is very extreme in my car, till you learn how to drive a car with a small displacement and high boost. It used to drive like the turbo was an on/off switch. It used to go from 2.0 engine with very little power, then at 3,600 rpm the turbo is pushing nearly 30psi of boost and sticks you in your seat. It was quite bothersome. It was fun, but annoying on a daily drive. That's no longer the case. I now drive with higher revs, and when the turbo kicks on, it's much more progressive than before. It's no longer a light switch to access the power. It took me maybe 2 weeks to learn how to drive it smooth enough to enjoy the car as a daily. I believe the newer turbos that give you max torque at 1900-1950 rpms will drive much smoother than my 2013 Golf R. There are also parts available, which have been recently installed on my Golf that help to hold boost between shifts. It's called a Diverter Valve as opposed to a blow off valve which makes a silly sound and blows the excess air out of the engine. The diverter valve helps to slightly hold on to the air by helping the recirculation of the air to keep the turbo spinning while shifting as opposed to dumping the air that a blow off valve will. Moral of my opinion: Get the manual, get the tune, then wait for a product to come out that will help hold boost between shifts. For someone like myself, I will make all the sacrifices necessary to continue to enjoy manual transmissions, while we still have them. You will likely ALWAYS have an option for a PDK or something similar to the PDK, but I believe our time with manual transmissions on this earth is very limited. Your concern, although reasonable, is simply not a concern to me... I believe a slight variation to your driving style on your tuned 718 will likely take care of most of your concerns. If it doesn't, the aftermarket world will likely have something in the very near future (if it doesn't have one already) to completely resolve or greatly reduce the potential issue.
Btw: I enjoyed your question...
 
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