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water temp creeping up?

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#1 ·
For 2 plus years my water temp has been around 194 F - all seasons. During the past couple of drives, the temp has gone to 199/200 in Sport which I always drive in. Same driving conditions and cooler ambient temps. I bought coolant just in case and may add a splash if next drive shows the same. Anyone experience this?
 
#2 ·
During long drives with the engine at steady state (interstate highway at constant 75 mph for more than one hour) I've noticed the water temp will sometimes slowly rise from 90C to 95C over say 30 minutes; and then it may trend down. This in Sport mode. No alarms, warnings, messages or changes in operation or coolant level. I attribute it to the ECU doing its thermal management thing. Many long road trips; has not been a problem.
 
#5 ·
I did some testing few weeks ago.
Our dashboard/system is preprogrammed to show 90 C (or 194F) and not show higher data. It is also on other cars from VW group (my friend with VW Golf R had the stop at 90C as well, but went to ECU specialist for modification to show correct data).

Im surprised you have seen higher temps on dash.
However, when you plug in diagnostics and do some data logging, you can get real water temp data which increase beyond 90C often during hard driving.
 
#6 ·
I did some testing few weeks ago.
Our dashboard/system is preprogrammed to show 90 C (or 194F) and not show higher data.
You verified this by examining the software, not by taking water temp readings? What you described would be foolish. Water (without additives) boils at 212F at atmospheric pressure, at higher temps when pressurized. The max temp would be controlled by a thermostat which regulates how much water goes through the radiator(s). That's why it would be pegged at 194F. The dash display thermometer and the thermostat need not be at the same place in the system but if they are or if they use the same data feed then your dash would display exactly what the thermostat is doing. There may be other temp sensors for monitoring fuel, exhaust, oil, etc, which in general will not report exactly the same temp, and may typically be higher.

If you have a problem, either a pressure leak or a malfunctioning thermostat then the temp could go up. A thermostat stuck open results in a car that never warms up. If the temp goes up you really really really want to know about it. That would result in a corresponding increase in pressure until a pressure-release valve, traditionally in the radiator cap, would literally let off steam. When you lose pressure, through a release valve or a leak, the coolant will begin to boil at the hot spots in the engine. When that happens the coolant no longer contacts the metal and that spot gets hotter. It's like oatmeal left unstirred on a stove, eventually it overcooks and you get burned oatmeal. Porsche engines aren't designed to run on oatmeal. The coolant temp display is your advance warning that something is amiss.

Of course there are other ways the dash could inform you of a problem, like the "Check engine" light. But if that's all then why have a temp display at all? I'm usually watching the oil temp on my dash but I imagine that I think that I remember seeing higher than 194F water temp.