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Are the stock Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 2 any good for track use?

6.8K views 14 replies 10 participants last post by  kabob  
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I know most of you got Pirelli PZ4 tires from the factory but for some reason mine came with the Goodyears. I’m pretty meh on these tires due to their extremely high cost (just paid $434 to replace a front tire) but I’ve got a relatively fresh set on all 4 corners to burn through. Anything I should look out for with my first HPDE in the CS?
 
#3 · (Edited)
Here's what my F1's looked like after a single track day of approximately 100 miles at Putnam Park (smaller 1.8mi, 10 turn course). I ran 7 sessions of about 20 - 30 minutes each, checking and adjusting pressures throughout the day. The tires had ~8,000 miles on them at the start of the day.

This was my first track day in the car and I think the tires did okay. My stock brakes took a bigger beating, though. For what it's worth, I'll be going Michelin PS4 next.
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#6 ·
I'd pay attention to tire pressures. Get a good tire gauge and keep adjusting as the day goes on. Allow the tires to warm up a couple of laps before pushing it. We bring a small pump as well to reinflate at the end of the day as well. Feel free to DM me with any questions, I instruct for several clubs in PA, NJ and NY. I'm not the fastest, or best, but have spent the money to be somewhat of a "don't do that" expert! =D

Dave @ SOUL
 
#9 ·
They're available at TireRack in 235/35/R20 and 265/35/R20 if you have the 20" Carrera S wheels but they're so pricey. Discount Tire is pretty much the same price and including tax and mount/balance, the front tires come out to $434 each and $527 for the rear. Total cost of $1922 for a set of four. Suffice to say, I'll be going with a different brand/tire when it's time to replace these.
 
#12 ·
On track the Goodyear were OK. Tire pressure made a big difference in responsiveness but if the track is damp/cold, they sucked. Even street driving in wet/cool mid 50s conditions they tend to slip more than PS4S. I run Cup2s now and dry grip is night and day difference even in wet/cool conditions. The PS4S are slightly cheaper than the Goodyear and are pretty good on track.
 
#13 ·
Hi all. I managed eight track days (and about 17,000 kilometres - 10,000 miles) on my Goodyear F1s before the outside edges wore out. They were on my base 2019 Boxster with 20 inch wheels. (FYI I'm not very quick). I now have more camber on the stock suspension and a set of Michelin Sport 4S Tyres. The Michelins seem like an improvement to me but I have no track times to prove that (my last session was on a wet track). The photo is from the rear of the front right wheel. I love my car . . .

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#14 ·
The Eagle F1s are totally OK for the track. On my base Boxster I’ve done a 4 AX and one HPDE on the stock set and there’s plenty of tread left. You’ll need to keep an eye on the pressures. If they get to/over 38 you’re in danger territory. Get a good gauge and a portable air pump to pump them back up for the drive home because they‘ll cool down to mid/low 20psi.

Both me and my instructor remarked how it felt like the tires were holding the car back a little… even in AX events, I always left the course thinking “I need to get those Michelins!”

Like someone else said though, the stock brake pads will wear out very quick. Be sure to pass tech and that you’ve changed your brake fluid in the past year at least.
 
#15 ·
I’m good on maintenance, I did the 4 yr service two weeks ago and flushed the brakes with ATE Type 200. It’s been pretty mild weather here lately but I might go ahead and add some Water Wetter to my coolant (Valvoline ZEREX G40) as a precaution. I bought some stainless steel brake lines from Suncoast but I’m going to wait until after my first track day before I install them. Same with a GT4 LSD I managed to snag.