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Interior of the new 718

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#7 ·
What do you think of the interior of the new 718? I like it, a lot of the 911, but they've removed a lot of the shiny piano plastic and introduced a nice satin finish.

Photos from: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...oxster-ev-shows-center-console-mounted-shifter-in-latest-spy-shots-237453.html#

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I think it looks modern and refined the way it should. Interesting that they’re putting a central switch gear there; that’s a first for an electric Porsche. Looks to be a perfect mixture of compact refinement.
 
#8 ·
I’m excited to see what the finished product will look like. All the spy shots, track testing videos I’ve seen indicate this will be a nice Boxster which will likely sell well.

What could make it not sell well is the price point it comes to market with, if the Base version starts at 100K, forget about it, not many people (forum users here excluded of course) are willing to drop that kind of $ on a toy car.
 
#14 ·
Nothing is stopping manufacturers from using analog gauges on EVs. You can change the signal from a digital bit of info into something the analog gauge can read.
"Analog" gauges are often already digital, and have been for decades. True analog gauges are rare.

No central rev counter, it's hard no from me
Meaningless on a pure EV. What would you have it report, wheel revolutions? With typical tire sizes at quasi-legal speeds, such a tachometer would rarely cross 1,000rpm.
 
#19 ·
"Analog" gauges are often already digital, and have been for decades. True analog gauges are rare.

Meaningless on a pure EV. What would you have it report, wheel revolutions? With typical tire sizes at quasi-legal speeds, such a tachometer would rarely cross 1,000rpm.
Just to add, I've seen in many vehicles where the digital display changes the data on the driver screen based on the selected drive mode (e.g., Comfort, Sport and so on).

The flexibility of what is being displayed based on the drive mode, I believe, is a good thing. While I like old fashioned analogue gauges, I also appreciate the additional ability the display panel-based driver screen.
 
#27 ·
Many cars I've had from new w/ a screen - to include my CGTS has displayed a gremlin or 5. I recently had my PCM screen replaced as it was acting like I was touching it, giving input to random menus, screens, clicks, etc. Thankfully, the screen replacement seems to have corrected it. Most notably was the 3rd screen in a Range Rover where the A/C functions resided. This screen would just so happen to decide not to turn on and allow me A/C functionality on the hottest of days. So, what's next? Window operation function on a screen ? Oh, maybe the steering wheel function should also be on a screen and we get one of these. Yeah! And the red button is the brake:
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But when we do - please-o-please do not forget to check the box - ICW leather & contrast stitching. Non-leather covered plastic in a base Cayster @ $100,983.99 - bleh.
 
#29 ·
all digital...just like every other car...following the fad, not standing out. Not a fan of digital gauges and one of my favorite parts about my GTI and Cayman is that it has a screen but it sits lower in the dash so you can focus on the road, like you should in sportscar, not have this screen in your line of sight. The 718 has achieved sportscar perfection with its placement. It gives you all the functionality of a screen while still giving you a clean line of sight that makes you feel like you are driving a classic sportscar, not a mobile arcade. Ok, I have to go puke now.
 
#30 ·
My previous daily driver was a 22 Taycan GTS. Drove very nicely (especially for an EV) and looked great IMO. The big problem -- LOTS of electronic issues. Load times for the software was ridiculously slow and at times wouldn't load at all (was called the black screen of death by many). Porsche seemed to work out some of kinks but can imagine there will be similar concerns when 718 EV arrives.
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#31 ·
Porsche seemed to work out some of kinks but can imagine there will be similar concerns when 718 EV arrives.
The question here is:

did PAG ditch the VAG all-electric-cars-everywhere new software platform that is years delayed?

or

did PAG use the Taycan software platform that they have been debugging for years now?

Anyone with experience in complex software system will understand these questions and why they matter.

TLDR: It is, with few exceptions, if any, always better, faster, and cheaper to evolve an existing already-fielded, already-debugged software system than it is to “start fresh.”
 
#43 ·
I am glad to be old enough that my GTS 4.0 should serve my needs and pleasures until I can no longer drive. 10 years from now I'll be like the cool old guy driving a Morgan or some other sports car with character and patina. And all the young ladies will say "he's got a cool car and probably won't live too much longer and for an old guy he's not too shabby..."
 
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I know I will take heat for this but I hope some out there might understand. I came to Porsche because it was different and felt special. The Cayman still had analog gauges, a great manual gearbox and clutch, better than average electric steering and a turbo motor that is high revving and feels more NA than my previous turbo motors that had too much torque, too soon and ran out of air at 6K RPM. My older friends were attracted to Porsche in the 70s because they were different from muscle cars. They focused on handling, less weight high quality materials. That is what makes Porsche special to me.

This interior is just the same old all digital stuff that every other manufacturer has been doing with the screen on top of the dash saying that infotainment is on par with driving. The 718 cockpit was special, it was different not just for analog gauges but also it's placement of the screen which says, driving visibility is still tops here, the screen is there to support you when needed. I hear a lot of things that make me chuckle often. As an IT guy, I often hear people say: "But it worked yesterday?" Ok, but it broke now? Do you go to your doctor when when your appendix hurts and say, but it was fine last week?

On here I hear similar things like, people that want more gadgets and fluff on the sportscars because "every other manufacturer does it or has it."

Stop and think for a minute... then if you want our sportscars to be like every other gadget-laden snooze mobile? Are you going to spend $10,000 to go to Everest Base Camp and complain, for $10K, they should at least have a Starbucks and massage center?

BMW was different as well. My first BMWs were driver focused. They stood out from American cars. They had window controls in the center which allowed me to keep my left hand on the wheel and control the shifter and windows without taking my eyes off the road. The instruments were clear and simple with red/orange night lighting for driving. They had good handling and were lighter than American counterparts. They also offered manual transmissions. Then they started to follow the other manufacturers. The gauges became smaller, harder to read with more bright lights. They put screens on top of the dash that are also there and moved the window controls to the door like every other manufacturer and loaded the cars with gadgets and increased weight to the point that they were no longer different.. or special.

I would hope Porsche would want to stand out as well and stay special, they have in so many ways which is why I am here. But after seeing so many wanting more gadgets and automation I guess Porsche has to follow the dollars and the dollars say to make the Yellowstone campsite, into a Posh resort with LCD displays showing you the stunning scenery instead of a plain window.
 

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I know I will take heat for this but I hope some out there might understand. I came to Porsche because it was different and felt special. The Cayman still had analog gauges, a great manual gearbox and clutch, better than average electric steering and a turbo motor that is high revving and feels more NA than my previous turbo motors that had too much torque, too soon and ran out of air at 6K RPM. My older friends were attracted to Porsche in the 70s because they were different from muscle cars. They focused on handling, less weight high quality materials. That is what makes Porsche special to me.

This interior is just the same old all digital stuff that every other manufacturer has been doing with the screen on top of the dash saying that infotainment is on par with driving. The 718 cockpit was special, it was different not just for analog gauges but also it's placement of the screen which says, driving visibility is still tops here, the screen is there to support you when needed. I hear a lot of things that make me chuckle often. As an IT guy, I often hear people say: "But it worked yesterday?" Ok, but it broke now? Do you go to your doctor when when your appendix hurts and say, but it was fine last week?

One here I hear similar things like, people that want more gadgets and fluff on the sportscars because "every other manufacturer does it or has it."

Stop and think for a minute... then if you want our sportscars to be like every other gadget-laden snooze mobile? Are you going to spend $10,000 to go to Everest Base Camp and complain, for $10K, they should at least have a Starbucks and massage center?

BMW was different as well. My first BMWs were driver focused. They stood out from American cars. They had window controls in the center which allowed me to keep my left hand on the wheel and control the shifter and windows without taking my eyes off the road. The instruments were clear and simple with red/orange night lighting for driving. They had good handling and were lighter than American counterparts. They also offered manual transmissions. Then they started to follow the other manufacturers. The gauges became smaller, harder to read with more bright lights. They put screens on top of the dash that are also there and moved the window controls to the door like every other manufacturer and loaded the cars with gadgets and increased weight to the point that they were no longer different.. or special.

I would hope Porsche would want to stand out as well and stay special, they have in so many ways which is why I am here. But after seeing so many wanting more gadgets and automation I guess Porsche has to follow the dollars and the dollars say to make the Yellowstone campsite, into a Posh resort with LCD displays showing you the stunning scenery instead of a plain window.
The gauges on the current gen 718 are not anything special. I could understand your point if they used materials or movements that had some cool and unique effect - they don't. They are just plain gauges with at best some backcolor choices. Sports chrono is unique but other than that, the old-style analog interior was just that - old. The buttons weren't anything special and arranged haphazardly and with ugly blanks in place. You can say that you prefer an old-style interior but the 718 wasn't anything to write home about.
 
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Thanks for posting the pics! With these and the ones from the Cayman pics the other week, you can see the direction Porsche is navigating with supply chain and manufacturing simplification and cost savings. Look forward to seeing the final version at the dealerships here in Stuttgart!

- Oz