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Jukebox Storage

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#1 ·
I was reading about the Jukebox storage feature in advance of taking delivery of my car and I have a few questions someone may be able to shed some light on:

1. Has anyone loaded music to Jukebox and is it a time consuming process?
2. is he jukebox storage on the Cayman and Boxster only 11GB?
3. can the storage capacity be increased (especially since I have about 30GB of music)?
4. I will load all my music on a pen drive and leave it in the glove compartment attached to the USB port.....question is it a slow process to retrieve the music from a USB device as the source? I will be using a 3.0 USB with up to 100MB/s read capability.....

If possible, I would much prefer being able to have all my music stored on the cars hard drive.........
 
#48 · (Edited)
I could use a little help with music content copied to the my SD cards. For some reason, I cannot see the Album Artwork on a few albums???

I typically purchase CD's online, then convert the files to ALAC saving to my local drive, then copy to my SD cards. For some reason, Apple iTunes never seems to have the cover artwork available.

If I view the SD card files on my MacBook Pro, I can see the artwork, but plugging in back into the car I get a generic album cover displayed.

I typically copy the artwork from an album cover image file I find online. The in car audio varies from to good to excellent depending on the recording.

Any guidance is appreciated.
 
#49 · (Edited)
I typically copy the artwork from an album cover image file I find online. The in car audio varies from to good to excellent depending on the recording.

Any guidance is appreciated.
I too rip from the source to WAV, but use MediaHuman Audio Converter to convert to ALAC. Within, there is an option to pull from multiple sources for artwork (Discogs, Last.fm and Google). All show up just fine when playing in my CGTS.

Most of my sources are 24bit 96kHz DVD-A and Blu-ray audio, so it mirrors the quality.

Hope this helps!

GaryInMotion
 
#40 ·
Is it possible to load files from a cd into the jukebox? The manual suggests that it is, but when I press the "opt" button while playing a cd, there is no option for copying to the jukebox. What am I missing?
You can't load directly from a Red Book CD (the type you would typically buy in a store) as there isn't the ripping software, but it will load from an optical disc containing files of a suitable format such as MP3, Flac etc (suitable formats are listed in the manual). I wouldn't bother burning those files to a disc though as it's easier & faster to load them onto a memory card or pen drive. You can either purchase files in a suitable format, or use ripping software such as dBpoweramp. The jukebox has a woefully limited capacity & is only really suitable for storage of low resolution lossy MP3's (which take up far less space than anything worth actually listening to). Otherwise you'll find it gets full with very few albums. If you're happy with that then fine, but if you care about sound quality then I & many others keep high resolution files stored on memory cards, thumb drives & bypass the jukebox itself. The functionality is the same.
 
#36 ·
They are actually whole albums consisting of multiple tracks from numerous genre's. Three are compiled by HD tracks themselves & there is also an album called Covers3 by Chesky records. Or at the very least it was free yesterday, which I found quite surprising as it contains 19 tracks.
 
#32 ·
Yes, their prices are quite high. I get the WAV in 24/96. It's twice the res of CD and I doubt if I could tell the difference at a higher rate. I know it plays on all my devices. I'll check out th Robert Len recording - I have a soft spot for Jazz. I got the DVD-A Beatles Love - the sound it quite good and plays in 5.1 stereo on the Burmester. Someday I may get up the energy to do do some converting but my main problem is I'm old and lazy.
 
#29 ·
I go to HDTracks and download the music as WAV files - you can pick the resolution desired. They're really big files but can be converted later, if desired, by some of the processes decribed above. I just drag the WAV music files to the SD card and it's ready to go. Maybe not tons of music but enough for me. Easy too. That's why I update them frequently. Just remember that the music is only as good as the source. Some older stuff may be re-recorded in HD but ...
 
#31 ·
I also make quite a number of purchases from HD Tracks, but normally only the audiophile high resolution stuff on Flac 24/96 & above, as well as the odd DSD recording. It has to be said that some of their prices are absolutely ridiculous (certainly on HD tracks U.K), especially when much of the store content is only of CD quality & I can buy an actual physical copy for a mere fraction of the price.................................I'd recommend the jazz album Fragile by Robert Len which is available on HD tracks though. A superb recording that they have available in numerous formats & sample rates (I have it in Flac 192/24). It's probably my favourite album that I've purchased from that particular site.
 
#26 ·
Hey, I would like to know more about using SD cards with HiDef audio. I understand the basics MP3 vs. FLAC etc., but I have never actually taken advantage of the lossless formats. Anybody willing to share their process for selecting content (source), then transferring the files to SD for use in car?

I like music. I like good sound, but I have pretty much settled for music purchased from iTunes then played in car via bluetooth or via AirPlay because it was easy. I also listen to XM Sirius, and some FM.

I listen to pretty much all types of music, although, i'm partial to Jazz. I managed a Sam Goody record store many moons ago. We sold LP's, 45's, cassettes, and 8track tapes. I recall with CD's were launched. :O
 
#27 ·
If you want to try ripping a few CD's in different formats for experimentation then I can recommend dBpoweramp. It's an absolute cinch to use. It's fairly inexpensive but in any case they allow you a 21 day free trial. All converted files will be stored on your computer & you can just drag them to an inserted SD card.
 
#24 ·
My 'jukebox' is a case of CDs in the passenger footwell. Feeding CDs into the slot is one of those nice tactile sensations I appreciate....also recognizing the familiar labels on much-played vintage CDs acquired over the years at a local used-vinyl shop that could've been the set for John Cusack's place in High Fidelity.

Hey, CDs still feel like something modern to me compared to vinyl and cassettes. Anyway I enjoy listening to them in my base Porsche sound system (which sounds quite good even following the Bose in my 987).

I fully expect in another 12 years to be the last person driving around shifting a manual listening to CDs in 2029.

some old-school sounds (in my 718 player right now) in honor of the title of this thread.... Enjoy!

--Jon
 
#25 ·
My 'jukebox' is a case of CDs in the passenger footwell. Feeding CDs into the slot is one of those nice tactile sensations I appreciate
--Jon
Thanks for posting the song, great song but if I put my CD's in the footwell then were are my wife's feet supposed to go? Think small.....SD card 1 by 3/4 inches and it holds 5000 of my songs. If I try to put all my CD's in the footwell they will come up over the passenger seat and probably start flying out the window as I drive.....;)
 
#19 ·
I'll look tonight re: 'shuffle'ability of SD card content.

Once the contents of the SD card are indexed by PCM (it took 8-10 seconds when I first inserted mine, which has about 105GB of data on it), it stays indexed until you remove the card -- and everything is searchable very quickly. The search function works very similarly to iTunes'. Metadata appears to be retained well, and album art is present as long as its part of the metadata.
 
#15 ·
I gotta say, y'all really should look into using the SD card slots. The medium is only marginally more expensive (a good 128GB card is $50 on the 'zon; an equivalent USB drive is about $40), high-quality SD cards are all but temperature-proof and waterproof (the same can't be said of most thumb drives), transfer speeds are really a non-issue with music files, and it doesn't take up a USB port that can theoretically be used for so many other things. It's a set-and-forget storage medium that's basically made for high-quality data transfer.
 
#13 ·
I love the Jukebox feature. I use it exclusively. I don't use the CB player or the radio or anything else. I've loaded it up using a USB stick and now it has about 40 different CDs on it. It makes it so easy to select a song - you can use buttons, or touch screens, create play lists, play randomly, use the voice feature to just request a song.

The only thing I'd want it to do is to record a CD. But for some reason it won't do that.
 
#14 ·
How many GB did you load? Time to load? I purchased a 64GB memory stick/3.0 USB with 100mb/sec read rate. My intent is to leave the USB device in the port in the glove compartment.

Although, 64GB would be trivial for GregW for me its much more than I need......;)

Are the USB ports 2.0 or 3.0?
 
#12 ·
I moved to Spotify a few years ago and never looked back. Pretty massive library and works with CarPlay. So I don't have plans to use the Jukebox as pretty much any song I purchased over the years and thousands more are on Spotify to stream at any time. That and the ability to create endless playlists keeps me pretty content.
 
#5 ·
My two cents, as an audiophile with plans to upgrade my 718's base stereo:
1. Haven't, and won't. My big concern is sample size; there's no info in the Owner's Manual regarding what bitrate the Jukebox stores digital files in. My previous car (BMW 2 Series) actually downsampled to 256Kbps to maximize space. If 256 Kbps sounds fine to you, great, but it doesn't to me, particularly considering the bass response that even the base Sound Package Plus audio has.
2. This has been answered. However, the two SD card slots can take up to a 128GB SD card each. That means 256GB of media storage (audio/video/etc.) in nearly any format you choose. The kicker is that the system will read files in nearly any lossless codec except for AIFF and OGG. I already have a 128GB SD card stuffed with FLAC audio files in my car; playback is great. That makes the Jukebox trivial, IMHO.
3. No. It's almost certainly a partition on the PCM's HDD.
4. Haven't tried it. That said, other feedback suggests it's reasonably quick, and so far I've been impressed with how quickly PCM operates. PCM4's got a nice-sized processor in it. Great for us!
 
#7 ·
My two cents, as an audiophile with plans to upgrade my 718's base stereo:
1. Haven't, and won't. My big concern is sample size; there's no info in the Owner's Manual regarding what bitrate the Jukebox stores digital files in.
That's the thing with the jukebox, it's space is that limited that when I stored files of a decent quality it was full in no time. It stored so little in flac that I was limited to very few albums so I filled it with MP3's as a sort of back up. The thing is now it is only full of MP3's I've actually stopped listening to it & only use the USB drives & memory cards with Flac files. I'll probably just delete the jukebox contents contents & fill it with a few of my desert island discs in a decent quality.
 
#4 · (Edited)
The time it takes depends very much on (A) What you're loading from (B) The file type you are using. A USB drive or Memory card uploads much quicker than files burnt to disc. A low quality MP3 file obviously uploads quicker than a high resolution FLAC file because there's less information. I don't know if it's possible to upgrade the storage but I doubt it even though it is somewhat limited. You'll just need to be very selective of what you decide to upload, but addition & deletion of files is a very simple matter. You can play directly from the USB drive or Memory card even whilst uploading, or could even opt to storing your music on a combination of Jukebox, Memory cards, USB drives & an iPod. With all them you'll have enough music to drive half way around the world before listening to the same track again.
 
#3 · (Edited)
1. Yes I have. Depends on the speed of your memory card or USB pen. But it is reasonably quick.
2. It is supposedly 40gb but some of the storage must be used for other data as I could not upload all the music I had on a 32gb memory card.
3. You can use the USB connection and just plug it in and the pcm media player will recognize it without having to load into the internal HD. You can also use the available SDcard slots behind the Porsche logo panel which you flip up with your finger nail. This is also the same spot for installing the chip for a cellphone. I have not tried this though.
4. If you have a fast USB memory card. I used a class 10 microsd card on a USB 3.0 memory adaptor, it will be fine. It takes a little while to index the music, but after that it works seamlessly.

Cheers
 
#9 ·
You can also use the available SDcard slots behind the Porsche logo panel which you flip up with your finger nail. This is also the same spot for installing the chip for a cellphone. I have not tried this though.
4. If you have a fast USB memory card. I used a class 10 microsd card on a USB 3.0 memory adaptor, it will be fine. It takes a little while to index the music, but after that it works seamlessly.

Cheers
Very helpful....thank you my friend....Appreciated!
 
#2 ·
Only 30GB of music??--I have 1TB+ so there is no hope of fitting it into the Jukebox and I haven't tried.

It is really easy to use a USB drive or an iPod. I have an old iPhone 4 that I use as an iPod and I record music from my favourite radio station's internet broadcast (Radio Paradise) and play that through the car. The reading is very fast and the playing so far has been faultless.

Greg
 
#8 ·
Well if my 30 GB is roughly 13 (24hr) days worth of music then your 1TB+ is >433 days. So if you listen to you music 8 hours a day that would take you roughly 3466 days or 9.5 years to run into the same song twice. Therefore, unless I am taking a really long journey, like to the moon, I think that's a bit more music then I need or want in my Porsche:)