Much like dating a supermodel, the GT4RS would annoy the snot out of you a lot of the time, but the rest of the time...........OH MY!!!!
From a value perspecive also, with no ADM you're pretty much guaranteed to make money if it doesn't' work out.

 

Much like dating a supermodel, the GT4RS would annoy the snot out of you a lot of the time, but the rest of the time...........OH MY!!!!
From a value perspecive also, with no ADM you're pretty much guaranteed to make money if it doesn't' work out.

That is a hilarious description. I can't offer much here. I wouldn't spend that much money on a car, supermodel or not.

However... if you are willing.. as special as the GTS is, the GT4 RS is one of the most special Porsche models ever made. You might be able to put up with it because it's so amazing. But are you ok having it as a daily driver and track car, putting tons of miles on it, taking it to the track, etc.? I worry about my GTS being dinged in a parking lot. With a GT4 RS I think I would completely lose my mind. Or more likely, I would practically never drive it because I would be too worried. If that's not you and you don't mind the depreciation that comes with the miles on the car, then the GT4 RS experience may not come around again. I certainly would not make the decision based on a few months of being Porsche-less.

 

My GTS does all those things well.

So you want to give that up for a model that will not do all those things well? How much of a better track experience will it provide? Will it be enough to offset the current enjoyment at all other times and in all other places which comprise 75% of your driving time?

 

Seeing this made me realize I owe you an apology for never responding in your thread from last month--must have slipped my mind. Sorry! So, to pick up that conversation:

I have a lot to learn and am not even remotely close to exploiting the limits of my GTS. I wouldn't even consider an RS if they were guaranteed to be around for another 5-10 years.

This is a great mindset. Based on the résumé you posted in the other thread, yes, you are correct: You are years away from growing beyond your GTS--many years, if your planned 15-events-per-year schedule proves unsustainable. It's also important to get as much instruction as you can if you really want to progress; otherwise, most of us tend to unknowingly cement bad habits that limit performance.

A former chief instructor with the BMW CCA (NJ Chapter), from whom I was fortunate to learn a bit before he passed, famously put it this way:

I can teach you to drive fast in a modest car in two years but in a hot car, it may take five.

Blake was one of the architects of the CCA's Instructor Training School (ITS). He knew what he was talking about.

Consider that the GTS is already a seriously hot car. A GT4 RS is more like nuclear. You have no (usable) garage space; the RS is by most accounts, borderline torture as a street car; and if your goal is to be a fast driver, the GTS is a better learning tool. Sure, the RS is an insanely fast car, and you will likely have an absolute blast with it on track...but you might find yourself, for quite some time, getting gobbled up in the corners by faster drivers in lesser cars.

So be honest with yourself about what you want from the hobby and your goals for your development as a driver. That will help you decide whether to jump to the RS now or wait. If the latter, there is always the second-hand market--these cars will be around for years.

 

Welp. I got rid of the GT4 RS idea out of my head. My GTS 4.0 kicks butt, I live in the city and like driving it around, but I also like tracking. My GTS does all those things well.

But, and it's a big BUT, I was just offered a no ADM allocation for a build next month. But they want my trade-in NOW. They offered a fair price for the trade-in. I would have no fun car for summer, take on an extra cost, and have a car that isn't as good as my GTS 4.0 for 75% of the time.

This is tough.

Sage advice is welcome.

Advice as requested: Stick with what you have !
Good Luck.

 

The Porsche Cayman GT4 RS isn’t really designed to be a daily driver it's definitely a track car. It is street legal and you would have lots of awesome time driving it on the street and captivating lots of attention everywhere you drive. Remember there is only a limited amount GT4 RS being produced and if you were offer an alloction with no ADM it's like winning the lottery go for it. It's one of the best vehicle Porsche has produced for track use.

 

Butt, it's not always a choice, its a position. If it's a money matter, my guess is the GT4RS costs you only time, will longer term probably net you gains. As for missing a car for a bit, rent something or fix the itch by going to something like the Porsche Driving Experience at Barber Motorsports, or one of the Corvette 2=3 day programs at Spring Mountain or any of a number of other DE's on someone else tires, brakes and gas. You'll be sharpened all up for the GT4RS.

 

GTS: street car track capabilities. GT4: track car tolerable on street. GT4RS: track car that is noisy, hot, harsh for ordinary use, you'll have to watch where you drive it or you'll tearing up the front splitter. If you decide to go with the RS, make sure you add front axle lift. I've instructed in a RS, it was just as I described. If you're a very experienced track junkie the RS might be for you. I doubt that the majority of track drivers can fully exploit the capabilities of the RS.
Good luck and congrats on that allocation!

 

"I live in the city and like driving it around"-said NO ONE EVER, about a 4RS car. Ride or drive one-others have mentioned-hot, NOISY, unbelievably so...forget conversations, it's really a solo experience-life changing, but are you truly ready for that...the fear of parking it "....in the city..." Do you have earplugs? This is a race car...a rock star of a race car...ready for that kind of attention. Remember that supermodel? High maintenance....look at the number currently for sale....like all supermodels, someone, somewhere is tired of putting up with her sh*t.
That said, if you do get one, your new "friends" will be lining up to "help you".

 

You can find 64 Porsche GT4RS for sale on Porsche finders USA. 15 new 2024 and the rest are pre-owned. Why are their so may previous owners getting rid of the Porsche GT4RS?

 

because its not comfortable for use as a street driven car

one GT4 RS owner I talked to (tracks his regularly) commented that even with a helmet & ear plugs - its loud inside

the other factor is the maintenance requirements on the RS version are quite high compared to the GTS and GT4 versions - even calls out wheel bearing service intervals due to track use

 

Sounds to me like you might be better off with a Spyder RS as the spring rates are much softer for daily and alpine driving. More of a dual purpose car like the GTS.

 

Noise is probably gonna be the biggest difference to the GTS. GT4 RS is the banshee of the GT cars. With the intake in the cabin and the engine screaming to 9000 RPM, sounds like a recipe for an insanely loud cabin. Using it as a 3rd car on a track with a helmet makes the most sense imo.

 

Welp. I got rid of the GT4 RS idea out of my head. My GTS 4.0 kicks butt, I live in the city and like driving it around, but I also like tracking. My GTS does all those things well.

But, and it's a big BUT, I was just offered a no ADM allocation for a build next month. But they want my trade-in NOW. They offered a fair price for the trade-in. I would have no fun car for summer, take on an extra cost, and have a car that isn't as good as my GTS 4.0 for 75% of the time.

This is tough.

Sage advice is welcome.

If you have another daily driver, and you are not giving up a manual, do it; get the GT4RS!

 

Buy a used Boxster to drive around for a few months and wait patiently for your RS.

 

I like this strategy. Wish I could do stuff like this, but with state sales taxes in California, swapping cars gets to be a very expensive proposition.

 

I have one, came from a 911 Carrera s and I would strongly recommend you get it if you can get it around msrp. It’s an incredible experience both on track and on the twisties. You will smile and giggle a lot. Car buff friend called it the best soundtrack of any car he’s been in.

 

Our semi-garage queen BGTS gets most of her mileage traveling to and from the track. We do weekend drives a couple times a month; however, my lovely Bride has never driven her once...and I've encouraged this many, many, many times. Her SL450 is more her cup of tea. Thus, I'd have to jump all over a no-ADM Spyder RS allocation, whether I need one or not.

 

You keep coming back to the RS so it’s definitely something you WANT. If you can afford to scratch that itch, and will truly make you happier, who are we to convince you either way? It’s a great car but I think you need to decide how much time and expense you are willing to commit to tracking in the future. Could be a lifetime and if so, this car will do it for you for many years to come although you may decide that it’s not enough and you need a GT3RS as you continue down the rabbit hol.

If this is something you are committed to, then it makes sense. I still believe you can have a blast in your current car. But the fact that this may end being a limited opportunity to buy and spec it the way you want it, then maybe it is the right thing to do for you.

 

I own both, have done 15 k. in 4,0 and 12 k. in RS, incl 20+ trackdays. If 75% street then my choice would be to keep 4,0. Sure RS is better on track and else, but its too much compromise for that 25%. IMO of course and lucky to have both.

 

You know you are never going to stop thinking about it if you don’t 😄

 

I personally would not, even though the RS will go down as a legendary Porsche

With the market as it is, you probably could not go GTS -> GT4RS -> GTS without loosing money. No doubt you have good spend history with the dealer, but there is a reason you got that call... And, outside of the track, I very much doubt it is that pleasant a car, truth be told. It will feel special no doubt, but very very full on.

(I am also very skeptical that below 6k RPM there is any performance difference. Yes, you'll be above that all the time on track, but how often on road?)

If you want it just as a thing to have though, go for it!

 

No ADM - Go for it
Giving up your car in prime driving weather - Don't go for it
Getting a build like BK "Do it your way" - Go for it
Thinking (and maybe even knowing) the GTS is more car than you'll ever need - Don't go for it
The GTS is a great all'rounder that checks more usability boxes - Don't go for it
CPO is always an option later down the road so there is no feeling of being hurried into a decision - Don't go for it.
It's up to you friend. Post back what you next move it when it happens!

 

If you don’t do it, you’ll always wonder and you may regret it. If you do do it, you won’t lose any money, except one summer in a good car (the GTS). And as folks have noted, you could get something just for the summer (MX-5 perhaps).

 

I totally agree he should do it or he will probably regret it and most likely he won't lose (too much) money, but I don't think the RS has the same appeal long term as the GT3 and for me, it's only automatic. So for the automatic guys, they will just want the full-monty GT3 with the extra snobby clout that comes with it and double wishbone front, etc. I think that is why you are beginning to be offered some at MSRP, it is cool and if they made a manual version, I would be wiping drool of my keyboard. I think it will hold it's value, but I don't think the poster should expect its value to go up like other variants IF that is playing into his decision to change, that is all I'm saying.

 

Hey everyone. Thank you so much for your insight. I ended up taking the $0 ADM GT4 RS allocation. While I love my GTS 4.0, it was too hard to pass this up. Unfortunately, as part of the deal, I need to part with Hans (my GTS) in two weeks so they can get top dollar for him during the summer season. It is understandable on their part, considering they are one of the few dealerships that don't charge ADMs. And yes. They were fair on my trade-in, and I live in a state with sales tax credit.

This car will be seeing the track, AutoX, hitting back country roads, and making some jaunts around the city streets of Seattle. Here is my build, which locks for production in two weeks for October delivery. It is a MY25, likely the last year for production.

718 Cayman GT4 RS | Porsche Car Configurator

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I need to return my car, which has awesome mods back to stock. These are for sale.
Soul Street Headers (600 miles on them) $4,000

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TWL Carbon Fiber Ducktail Spoiler $1150 (I actually need a gloss black OEM spoiler. If you want to trade, we can work something out for a fair price)

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GT4 intake scoops are painted in metallic ice grey. Can be repainted. GT4 logo buffed out. $300

GT4 Side Intake Scoops (718)

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TWL Carbon Fiber Interior Covers. Looks so much better than the cheap plastic OEM. $650

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Fabspeed Carbon Fiber Exhaust Tips $500

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You have to take off the clear engine cover too? Before dropping it off at the dealer?

 

One of the few without the Weissach pack for better or worse.

 

One of the few without the Weissach pack for better or worse.

Hoens

One of the few without the Weissach pack for better or worse.

I am not a fan of the carbon fiber hood. I think it's too full on. I like some carbon fiber bits like intake scoops and engine cover. I will get that from TWL. Their carbon fiber is top-notch, and it will save me about $11k.

 

Hoens

I am not a fan of the carbon fiber hood. I think it's too full on. I like some carbon fiber bits like intake scoops and engine cover. I will get that from TWL. Their carbon fiber is top-notch, and it will save me about $11k.

$11k is like 6% of the car's value. It does come with a lot of other stuff besides a carbon hood. Makes the interior and exterior more special and exciting in my opinion but making the car bespoke to you is part of what makes a Porsche a Porsche.

 

Congratulations you made a great decision
purchasing the 2025 GT4RS and at a fantastic price. All of the new 2024 on Porsche finder site are listed way above the $200,000. Price.

 

Thank you very much. I hit the jackpot.

I have a long ways to go as a driver before even coming close to scratching the surface of the capabilities of this car. But I’m going to enjoy it for years to come and get plenty of time and have lots of smiles. I just hope my wife enjoys riding in it.